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ScoutJock21 Mar 2017 8:04 a.m. PST

I bought some Mig filters so the question is what order works for you, wash then filter, filter then wash, don't use filters and washes on the same figure, or doesn't matter what order you use them in?

I'm thinking filter then wash.

Thanks

idontbelieveit Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2017 8:35 a.m. PST

It depends on what you are trying to achieve. I find I use filters more than washes. But usually when I use them I'm aiming for a subtle color change or to blend colors that look too harsh side-by-side.

Todd63621 Mar 2017 11:50 a.m. PST

Do you seal the model before the filters?

ScoutJock21 Mar 2017 12:55 p.m. PST

No because my understanding is that using a filter over a varnish results in the filter becoming an expensive and not very effective wash.

But that's kind of why I'm asking,

McWong7321 Mar 2017 1:47 p.m. PST

Filter, heavily diluted, post wash but pre weathering. Then wait, if the contrast with weathering is too harsh do another diluted filter as it tends to tone down and balance the colours. Important thing is to dilute the filter.

Vigilant21 Mar 2017 2:59 p.m. PST

Dumb question probably, but what is a filter? I've used weathering powders and washes but not come across filters other than the things you put in front of a camera lens.

Personal logo Doctor X Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2017 3:50 p.m. PST

I'm with you Vigilant. Never heard of a filter in painting before. How is it different than a wash or paint/Future wash?

McWong7321 Mar 2017 3:54 p.m. PST

Filters are a colour tone applied across an entire model to being some visual unity to your painting. They're sold by the likes of Ammo and Mig, and are a technique used a lot by scale modellers.

Very good to tone down contrasting colours

D A THB21 Mar 2017 4:49 p.m. PST

Some things seem to work better in different order of application.
I've only just started to use Mig products. I find that if I apply the Vietnam powders on tracks and wheels it looks very bright, but if I put a dirt wash over the top it looks much more realistic.

McWong7322 Mar 2017 8:46 p.m. PST

There is no hard and fast rule, except experiment and use what works for you.

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP23 Mar 2017 10:03 a.m. PST

This is very simplistic but…

A wash is designed to pool around various items like rivets and stowed material and in crevices like hatch lines or bogey wheels. They are designed to provide depth, for instance the folds on a tarp. You can "wash" an entire vehicle or figure or do what is called pin washes.

Filters are done as one of the later steps. They are designed to subtley mute and blend the various colors and alter the overall appearance. Think of selective use of filters on a camera.

And yes the lines between a wash and filter can blur at times depending on the strength of the wash and type of wash (acrylic, enamel, inks, artists paint) and the surface (acrylic, enamel)

Marc at work24 Mar 2017 5:36 a.m. PST

So having browsed various youTube bits, is there a recommended, golden site from which to learn how to apply these various products to our tanks? What is the one "go to" site in people's experience please?

Marc

ScoutJock24 Mar 2017 7:36 a.m. PST

I don't know if it is the be-all-end-all site but YouTube videos from carson the tightheadprop have inspired me.

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