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Visceral Impact Studios03 Mar 2017 5:50 p.m. PST

The usual notation for needing to "roll high" is X+. For example, if you need to roll a 5 or 6 on a d6, the notation would usually be 5+. This notation has become a defacto standard in our hobby.

What about needing to roll a given number or less?

Let's say you need to roll a 3 or less on a d10 to pass a roll. What should the notation be in your opinion?

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Mar 2017 5:51 p.m. PST

<3

Dynaman878903 Mar 2017 5:53 p.m. PST

<=3

Normally shortened to a < sign with a line under it but I don't know how to get that symbol.

Dave Crowell03 Mar 2017 6:09 p.m. PST

I have frequently seen X-. So 3- would mean "roll 3 or lower'.

Visceral Impact Studios03 Mar 2017 6:12 p.m. PST

Thanks for the love guys.

:-D

emckinney03 Mar 2017 6:13 p.m. PST

Make sure all rolls in the system go the same way: high is good, low is bad. Or vice-versa, but we generally associate higher as better, so it's easier to remember.

Visceral Impact Studios03 Mar 2017 6:16 p.m. PST

I might use 6≤ with the ≤ as a superscript…

Hmmm…

Visceral Impact Studios03 Mar 2017 6:17 p.m. PST

Totally agree emckinney. I hate it when die rolls go in different directions.

Dan 05503 Mar 2017 6:21 p.m. PST

I use "X or less"

Bashytubits03 Mar 2017 6:29 p.m. PST

Yes some dice are evil.

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Mar 2017 8:03 p.m. PST

Careful with 6< ,as it means more than 6. Safer to stay with <6?

TNE230003 Mar 2017 8:20 p.m. PST

as per Dave Crowell above

I have usually seen X-

MHoxie04 Mar 2017 3:21 a.m. PST

Traveller used to use X-, so I go with that.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Mar 2017 5:18 a.m. PST

I agree with Dave 055 and always write "X or better" or "X or lower". Homegrown notations are not consistent. Boolean and Lambda Calculus (though I find this the most clear, elegant, and well-defined way to encapsulate wargame rules) notation confuses.

For tables and such, I would title the table (or row) "Hit (Save/Success/Wahtever) on the Listed Number or Greater/Less".

(Phil Dutre)04 Mar 2017 10:48 a.m. PST

X+ and X- seem to be the most logical.

jwebster Supporting Member of TMP04 Mar 2017 11:56 a.m. PST

@etotheipi

Boolean and Lambda Calculus notation confuses

OK – now I want to see the DBA rules defined with lots of anonymous functions ……

John

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP04 Mar 2017 1:53 p.m. PST

I'm with MHoxie.

Lupulus05 Mar 2017 8:49 a.m. PST

There is no special notation needed. Just the 3 is enough.

Visceral Impact Studios06 Mar 2017 7:42 a.m. PST

This weekend we asked random gamers at two FLGSs what various notations would mean to them without guidance.

With 100% accuracy (i.e. all gamers knew immediately that it meant X or less) the winner is:

X-

The reason we can't always write out "X or less" is that the notation needs to appear in stat-line charts.

And the reason we'd rather not just leave it "X" with no notation is that a chart can include multiple numbers and we want no chance for confusion as to which number means number of dice (e.g. Xd10) or hit number (X-). We also want it absolutely clear that you need to roll low.

Thanks to everyone who provided advice, it is very much appreciated.

thehawk08 Mar 2017 10:59 a.m. PST

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