vtsaogames | 01 Mar 2017 9:18 a.m. PST |
I figure 2 for sure, but can you cram 3 on a 1" wide base? Pendraken or Old Glory 10mm figures, that is. |
thorr666 | 01 Mar 2017 9:38 a.m. PST |
50, really cram them on there |
streetgang6 | 01 Mar 2017 9:45 a.m. PST |
Three is no problem at all. It depends on the pose of the figure, but in general a 10mm figure will take about 6 to 7mm of space. Since 1" equals about 25.5 mm, plan on 3 figures in a loose formation, 4 figures for close. |
Mollinary | 01 Mar 2017 10:03 a.m. PST |
3 should fit comfortably. I fit 10 easily on a 3" base. Mollinary |
steamingdave47 | 01 Mar 2017 10:43 a.m. PST |
I'm planning 6 on a 20mm x 20 mm base for my Napoleonics, (that's about 0.8 x 0.8 inches). My 10mm Pendraken LoA armies are based at between 8 to 10 on a 60mm frontage so 3 per inch is easily managed |
vtsaogames | 01 Mar 2017 10:48 a.m. PST |
Thank you, gents. Thinking about the War of the Spanish Succession with Pendraken – unless I go with 15mm. |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 01 Mar 2017 11:09 a.m. PST |
The OG WSS and AWI strips(5 figures) are almost exactly one inch long. I put one behind the other, for 10 on a 1 X 1/2 inch base. Three of these (30 figures) make up a normal batallion. |
Shedman | 01 Mar 2017 11:12 a.m. PST |
For BBB I normally fit 6 10mm infantry in 2 ranks deep on a 25mm squaure base These are my 10mm Pendraken WSS on on 30mm square bases
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streetgang6 | 01 Mar 2017 11:30 a.m. PST |
Very nicely done Shedman! Hafen, I'm a huge fan of the OG strip. I mount three strips of 5 on a 24mm x 24mm for my Napoleonics with 6 stands per battalion. The massed effect looks stunning. |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 01 Mar 2017 1:24 p.m. PST |
Yeow! 90 figures per batallion? I bet it does! I bow before you,sir. My measly 30 would look positively anemic in comparison. I chose mine based on two considerations: first,they fit the basing for Shako (although basing for that is flexible,really), and second, it allows me to use up the OG bags with nothing wasted (it's the miser in me). Oh,and third, I want to be able to get as many units on the table as possible--the goal (or should I say "dream")--is Blenheim with all units present. That's also one reason I decided on "no base" basing--they take up less room. That,and the fact that the strips are already terrained,at least enough for me(the WSS French are less so,admittedly). I do wish the strip maker (who was not the sculptor,BTW) had been more consistent among the various base designs--the terrain on some command strips differ from those of the regular foot,for instance--but overall, I'm pretty satisfied with the look. There has been some discussion here about whether some strips in the Napoleonic line match up,lengthwise. I don't have any of those, but it might cause problems. Say,do you have any pics you could post? I'd sure like to see them! And,oh yes,I second steetgang6 on your pics,Shedman! |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 01 Mar 2017 1:41 p.m. PST |
Hey,maybe one of you fellows can help pin this down: TMP link |
45thdiv | 01 Mar 2017 3:05 p.m. PST |
I can't help you. I have been trying to help my son with math word problems. If a train leaves from Paddington at 8am and another leaves Bristol at 8:25 am, why do I care how many biscuits Sally had in her pocket? |
vtsaogames | 01 Mar 2017 4:52 p.m. PST |
Very nice, shedman. Do you have pics of your cavalry? |
Mollinary | 02 Mar 2017 2:16 a.m. PST |
I wonder if the thread title is at best ambiguous, or a tad misleading? I read it to imply how many mounted 10mm figures i.e. Cavalry, you could get on a 1" base. I see it could be read to mean how many 10mm figures i.e. Infantry, you could "mount" on a 1" base.. My answer referred to cavalry. Mollinary |
vtsaogames | 02 Mar 2017 6:40 a.m. PST |
Indeed my question was about cavalry. Guess it could have been more clearly stated. One more time: how many 10mm cavalry can you fit on a one inch wide stand? |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 02 Mar 2017 7:34 a.m. PST |
Oops! Well,some of us are a bit dense. Anyway--I use two 1 1/2 inch bases for a unit. I've found it possible to squeeze 5 Pendraken on one of those. But,because OG are larger (and have separate riders), only four fit comfortably in the same space,so I went with four for consistency. I'd say 3 Pendraken would probably be a maximum for one inch. Doubt if 3 OG would fit. Hope that helps. Mollinary,whose figures are you using? My Pendraken are older ones--are some newer ones larger? |
streetgang6 | 02 Mar 2017 8:38 a.m. PST |
You wanted to know about cavalry figures? Now that's a horse of a different color! (Sorry, couldn't resist) With my Old Glory 10mm I can fit 3 horseman on a 1" base riding stirrup to stirrup, or 2 horseman at a wider interval for lesser trained formations. I'll upload photos in a bit so you can see for yourself. |
Mollinary | 02 Mar 2017 8:44 a.m. PST |
My WSS Cavalry are also old Pendraken, but my ECW have many new Pendraken figures and they fit five comfortably on a 1 1/2" . I also have some Pendraken League of Augsburg figures, and you can fit 3 cuirassiers on a 25mm frontage, but I wouldn't like to try and get 4! Mollinary |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 02 Mar 2017 9:28 a.m. PST |
OK, I just came across some Pendraken WSS French Dragoons I hadn't packed up yet (I'm moving). Looks to me like you can barely get 3 on one inch, but the drummer makes it very difficult. I suppose if your bases are deep enough,you could stagger them. But for the reason I said above, I'm sticking with four on 1 1/2". YR*MV. *Ruler : ) |
streetgang6 | 02 Mar 2017 9:46 a.m. PST |
Here are some photos of my 10mm Napoleonic's I've been working on of late. Each figure represents 6 men at a ground scale of 1" = 25 paces (62.5' or 19m). The photos are of a French line battalion of 540 men, a French Chasseur squadron of 96 troopers, and a Prussian 8 gun battery of 6 x 6lb and 2 x 7lb howitzers. link link link |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 02 Mar 2017 10:47 a.m. PST |
Very impressive! Though(ahem!)--it does look like your cavalry bases are closer to 1 and 3/8". For the foot--no differences in strip length between the command and regular? As I mentioned, the way I base,that would be a concern. |
Jcfrog | 02 Mar 2017 1:13 p.m. PST |
In line, close order you can squeeze in 3. |
vtsaogames | 03 Mar 2017 7:35 a.m. PST |
Thank you gents. IF I get WSS armies, IF I go the 10mm route, I intended to put 6 foot or 3 cavalry on a 1" wide base. Nice to know it is possible. Unless I end up going for 15mm at 4 foot/2 cavalry per base. |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 03 Mar 2017 7:36 a.m. PST |
BTW,vistaogames,I recommend taking a look at the OG cavalry--several different horse poses in each bag. Makes for a nice out-of-step look--if you like that sort of thing. Which I do. |
streetgang6 | 03 Mar 2017 8:24 a.m. PST |
I second Hafen's recommendation for the OG cavalry. I do like the multi poses for the horses. Now if they only did the same for the riders…. And yes, Hafen, my cavalry bases ARE indeed a bit larger than 1". I put 4 on a 25mm x 30mm base in order to keep the 1:6 figures/men ratio I do for the infantry. It's part of a project I'm working on to use the 1828 Berlin Garrison Kriegsspiel mods to the 1824 Reisswitz rules as a minis game. Pretty cool to play a Napoleonic's game using rules developed by guys that actually fought in the Napoleonic Wars! |
streetgang6 | 03 Mar 2017 8:38 a.m. PST |
Hafen, There is a very slight difference between the command strips and line strips for OG Napoleonics, but we're talking at most 1mm or so. You'll notice in my line infantry pic that my bases are actually a bit short of 1" – I use 24mm x 24mm. As for the artillery, they're based on 25mm wide by 30mm deep while the cavalry is 30mm wide by 25mm deep. I'm also doing OG 10mm ACW, and there is quite a drastic bit of difference between the width between the strips posed as shoulder arms and those posed with port arms. The port arms strips are closer to 1 1/8" in length, while the shoulder arms are closer to 1". I use both by calling the shoulder arms units more trained and disciplined than the port arms units. This is acceptable to me as a seasoned eye of the era could judge how "good" a unit was likely to be under fire by how well drilled they were. |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 03 Mar 2017 9:28 a.m. PST |
Well rats. Your idea makes sense,but I was considering getting the ACW line,and doing some units using both poses--front rank port arms,rear rank shoulder arms,for instance--to help differentiate units,as I don't like labels. Sounds like that wouldn't work very well. Oh yeah, I thought you were using metric--just couldn't be sure from the ruler. |
vtsaogames | 03 Mar 2017 11:07 a.m. PST |
OK, OG 10mm cavalry have multi-pose horse. From my experience, Pendraken usually have two horse poses per pack. How many different horse poses in an OG cavalry pack? OG pro: infantry strips are easy to paint. OG con: only one standard per unit, have to paint them Pen Pro: can easily have two standards per unit, have each infantry stand with twice number of cavalry stand cheapest Pen con: really have to paint all those individual figures. And finally, WSS is not my main period. I know more about Napoleonic, AWI and ACW. But the Pendraken LOA figures are SO nice… dare I go that way, where I know so little? And do I want to mess with 10mm pikes? |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 03 Mar 2017 1:24 p.m. PST |
My OG are packed up right now,but IIRC,average three. But I can be corrected. Strips definitely easier to paint,especially my way,which is basically "cheating"--I spray prime black,and paint the "outsides". Everything left is "shadow". Not for all tastes,but from a foot away,in 10mm, looks OK to me. Yep,flags are a challenge,but again, I go somewhat impressionistic. Once you get used to doing the crosses on the French,it gets easier. Next up for me,though--Bavarians--yipe! Joining the OG Army brings costs down considerably. Can't comment on LOA. |
grahambeyrout | 07 Mar 2017 6:37 a.m. PST |
As someone currently to decide how to base new Pendraken 10mm Napoleonics, this thread is a godsend. I liked Streetgang6's photos, but to me a crew of 2 on a cannon, even a small 6 pdr does not look right, and I am beginning to feel that if I use 1 inch (or 25mm) bases for cavalry and infantry, I will have to use something larger for the artillery and ignore nominal ground scale |
streetgang6 | 08 Mar 2017 10:00 a.m. PST |
I know what you mean Grahambeyrout. I went back and forth quite a bit on what size base for the artillery. I came close to using a 50mm wide base for one gun representing two and basing 4 figures on it. This is keeping with my 1 figure = 6 men ratio that I use. The deciding factor was the mass effect I got by having all the guns in the battery represented 1 for 1 in the frontage I wanted, 1"=25 paces. Its a tradeoff, and I could have gone the other way with it, but for me keeping true to ground and figure scale won out. |