tshryock | 26 Feb 2017 8:34 p.m. PST |
Here's my latest stream construction for a Napoleonic Ligny scenario I'm working on. I'm pleased with how the water turned out and how easy the material was to work with. link |
Mako11 | 26 Feb 2017 10:23 p.m. PST |
Looks really great! Thanks for sharing your techniques. What material are you using for the stream bases? |
Dwindling Gravitas | 27 Feb 2017 2:23 a.m. PST |
Really good work there! Nice SBS, too. |
raylev3 | 27 Feb 2017 3:49 a.m. PST |
That's a really nice tutorial for great looking streams. |
Extra Crispy | 27 Feb 2017 6:20 a.m. PST |
I like the technique except for the base. The river ends up so thick – a problem I have not quite solved myself. Battlefield Terrain Concepts makes similar rivers (I own a shedload) and uses some sort of black plastic as a base. It keeps the profile of the river much lower. For very small scale rivers, I did something similar but just used cloth as the base. I will definitely pick up a jar of that clear coat stuff though. Great find! |
45thdiv | 27 Feb 2017 8:15 a.m. PST |
I say it looks to be well worth the money and effort. |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 27 Feb 2017 1:03 p.m. PST |
Thanks for the tip. I will try it. |
tshryock | 27 Feb 2017 4:03 p.m. PST |
Mako -- the base is pink insulation foam cut with a spoon shaped attachment to my hot wire cutter. The foam is 1/8" thick, I think. I just carefully scoop out a middle section for the stream. Crispy – I hear you on the "elevated" stream look. It's why I tried to use so much foliage to help hide the fact a bit. One thing I tried with other materials was to lay down the stream bed (sand/pebble mix) on parchment paper, pour the water, then use some foliage to act as a dam to keep it from all running off. When dry, peel it off the paper. This worked pretty well with Modg-Podge, but I found that after some time, it becomes brittle and breaks fairly easily with no support. I intend to try a similar technique with this glazing to see how it holds up, but for this project, I went with the base. |
Baranovich | 27 Feb 2017 4:26 p.m. PST |
Looks awesome, great work! One thing I learned about Mod Podge, is that is works better from a durability standpoint if it's used in a recessed, permanent channel, like on a modular terrain board. I used it this way for modular boards, applying it to painted MDF and two years later it's solid as a rock. I also put a coat of gloss varnish over it when I made my rivers. |
Mako11 | 27 Feb 2017 7:38 p.m. PST |
Thanks for the answer. I thought that might be the case, but wasn't sure. Raised streams are a concern, though less so when looking top down on them. I'm considering trying thin sheet styrense as a base, e.g. 1mm, 1.5mm, or 2mm thick. There's still the issue of creating the banks though, to contain the "water", and so it isn't perfectly flat, so even more unrealistic looking. I think these techniques are the best option other than purpose-built, fixed-piece terrain, where you can sink the rivers and streams into the "ground" properly. |
tshryock | 27 Feb 2017 8:13 p.m. PST |
Yes, either your streams/rivers go up or the boards go down! I also wanted this project to be as flexible as possible -- I needed the 8' or so of stream for this scenario, but also wanted to be able to reuse them as needed. I made something like 8 turns (each about 60 degrees) and then two short straight pieces of 4" then 1 each of the longer ones in gradually increasing lengths. |
CeruLucifus | 27 Feb 2017 9:28 p.m. PST |
Looks really good, thanks for posting. Will look for that Americana triple thick gloss coat. |