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OSL200019 Feb 2017 10:08 a.m. PST

Are the Beja tribe all fuzzy wuzzies or was there other people considered part of the Beja tribe?

Col Durnford19 Feb 2017 10:52 a.m. PST

I believe Beja was a group name for a bunch of tribes.
Fuzzy Wuzzy is a a British name applied to the Beja tribes based on hair style.

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP19 Feb 2017 12:40 p.m. PST

The word "Beja" is very like the word "European"--hardly specific.

There were/are many Beja Tribes, with differing dialects and unique cultural features.

One of the most heavily engaged Tribes in the Sudan was the Hademdowa. These were the people whose own hair style for men were dubbed "Fuzzy-Wuzzy" by the ever culturally sensitive Redcoats.

Or, more simply, "All Fuzzy-Wuzzy's are Beja, but not all Beja are Fuzzy-Wuzzy's."

Borrow someone's copy of Vol. 1 of the "Mahdist Wars Sourcebook," and an expert (Doug Johnson) explains it all rather neatly.

I'd tell you where you could buy a copy, but then I'd be accused of exploiting you.

Good Luck!

TVAG

SgtGuinness19 Feb 2017 1:31 p.m. PST

I have them both volumes of the Mahdist Wars Sourcebooks and can honestly recommend them. Since it may be seen as bad form for Patrick to push his products let me do so.

Available from: thevirtualarmchairgeneral.com

Doug Johnson has a few great articles within these books which were originally published in the Savage & Soldier publication.

Cheers,
JB

OSL200019 Feb 2017 1:39 p.m. PST

Thank you for the information. I'll look into buying the books

Ragbones19 Feb 2017 1:39 p.m. PST

As an impartial observer, I think the "Mahdists Wars Sourcebook," is worth it's weight in gold. Entertaining, informative, well illustrated…it's fantastic. Very highly recommended!

Col Durnford19 Feb 2017 2:33 p.m. PST

No regrets on buying the source books. As a matter of fact if I had to chose between them and Go Strong into the Desert, (also worth its weight in gold) they would win hands down.

Personal logo Wolfshanza Supporting Member of TMP19 Feb 2017 11:52 p.m. PST

Exellent books thumbs up Can't beat them for info !

legatushedlius20 Feb 2017 4:26 a.m. PST

Mahdist Wars Source Books are the business!

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP20 Feb 2017 1:12 p.m. PST

Tempting….but @ $40 USD a book +P&P: not cheap.

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Feb 2017 12:06 p.m. PST

My Brother, Ochoin!

No one is tighter with his hobby nickel than I am, and at the risk of sound self-serving, I'd challenge you to find as much actual, specific gen on the Sudan in 10 other books, the buying of which would obviously cost far more.

Further, the volumes are $35.00 USD and $30.00 USD each, and when bought directly through Amazon, you get their discount, and if bought together, totaling over $50.00 USD, you wouldn't even PAY postage.

Be a naysayer if it works for you, but at least get your numbers right, please!

Cheers!
TVAG

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2017 12:38 p.m. PST

VaG….numbers are right. For OZ.

But if you want to personally deliver the book (at no extra cost), I'll give you the address.

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2017 1:34 p.m. PST

I did the sums.

If purchased thru Amazon, you don't get any postage deals to OZ. So, for just one book, $76 USD or 94 Australian dollars.
Both books wouldn't be far short of 200 Australian dollars.

I have no doubt they're good books but as you can appreciate, not cheap.

SgtGuinness21 Feb 2017 2:11 p.m. PST

Wow, that's crazy expensive to Oz Ochoin. Too bad, they are good books.

Cheers,
JB

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2017 3:27 p.m. PST

@ Sgt

Oh I still might buy them but I'll have to consider budgetary restraints first.

crazy expensive to Oz

Part of the problem in living in a very wealthy society at the end of the world: everything's dearer….apart from sunshine, clean air, natural beauty & fairly crime-free environment.

Nick Pasha22 Feb 2017 6:03 a.m. PST

The cost of the books on Amazon is the same as Barnes and Noble, but B&N only has volume 1. Total for both books from Amazon is $65. USD Shipping is free and with prime it comes the next day. However here in Florida we have to pay sales tax because Amazon has buildings in the state. So that is another 7%.

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