Tango01 | 15 Feb 2017 12:47 p.m. PST |
…after 90 years. "Freedom fighter Bhagat Singh had killed British officer John Saunders on December 17, 1928. The pistol that Bhagat Singh had used to fire the bullet killing Saunders has found after 90 years and half a century of being lost in a storeroom in CSWT museum. According to reports by Times of India, the .32 mm Colt automatic was sitting on public display at the Reoti firing range of the Border Security Force in Indore on Tuesday. It must be noted that it was on this very day, February 15, 1931, that the Viceroy, Lord Irwin had rejected the final mercy petition filed by Congress President Madan Mohan Malviya…" Main page link Amicalement Armand |
Chouan | 16 Feb 2017 2:46 a.m. PST |
Freedom fighter? Or terrorist? |
ITALWARS | 16 Feb 2017 4:28 a.m. PST |
for me definitvly a terrorist but according to that perverse obsession , from people whose main agenda is to betray his own people and culture, they prefer to call freedom fighters ..what in fact are assasins that in 100% of cases struggle against freedom |
Tango01 | 16 Feb 2017 10:57 a.m. PST |
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goragrad | 16 Feb 2017 8:52 p.m. PST |
Thought I posted on this. It was late. Considering he and his compatriots ambushed and killed the wrong man and that in reality the killing was in revenge for what would be considered manslaughter – terrorist. The bombs were obviously poorly designed and couple that with his adoption of Marxism and admiration for Lenin and company, an inept and deluded terrorist. |
Chouan | 17 Feb 2017 12:44 a.m. PST |
So, an inept terrorist, but his support for Marxism makes him a deluded terrorist? |
ITALWARS | 17 Feb 2017 4:23 a.m. PST |
support for Marxim , which signify tout-court support for a doctrine of murder and vs freedom and respect of people, make him a terrorist even without the assasination |
Chouan | 17 Feb 2017 5:52 a.m. PST |
Are you really suggesting that Marxists are, by definition, terrorists? Really? |
ITALWARS | 17 Feb 2017 7:17 a.m. PST |
i'm suggesting to read this: link |
ITALWARS | 17 Feb 2017 7:22 a.m. PST |
and..in this particular case…while in India the true indipendendance leaders choosed a collaborative stance simply because the exit policy of Imperial Britain was to agree with practically everything and to avoid losses of life…the comunist/marxist leaders, who normally don't care at all about self determination and indipendence of nations and freedom of people, were totally opposed to that..so again and again terrorism … |
Chouan | 17 Feb 2017 10:28 a.m. PST |
You seem to be equating Marxism with the 20th century Russian or Chinese form of what they called communism (subsequently Marxist/Leninism, and/or Stalinism) which is not the same thing at all. This particular individual may well have been as you suggest; that doesn't mean that Marxists are by definition terrorists, or, by definition, are violent. |
ITALWARS | 17 Feb 2017 10:38 a.m. PST |
i don't think you can draw a difference between comunism/real socialism and marxism..for the simple reason that those who rule the doctrine will not allow you to do so..and they will oblige you to follow their rule…think about Trockji |
capncarp | 17 Feb 2017 6:50 p.m. PST |
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Moderate | 19 Feb 2017 5:01 a.m. PST |
A story goes that in his own time Marx looked around at some of the groups that claimed to be his followers and remarked "If these are Marxists then I'm not a Marxist". Pretty sure he would have said that about the Bolsheviks who were nothing but self-serving opportunists that stole the revolution away from the people in the October 1917 coup (Lenin was an agent of the Germans shipped in aboard a sealed train for goodness sake). The real spark of Marxism happened 100 years ago in the February revolution only to be extinguished and replaced with a parody. Orwell's Animal Farm explains everything. |
ITALWARS | 20 Feb 2017 7:36 a.m. PST |
"Orwell's Animal Farm explains everything" excellent suggestion..i agree |