Pictors Studio | 11 Feb 2017 11:46 a.m. PST |
The Stormcast get a new unit: the Vanguard Hunters. Looks like a lighter armed skirmish type unit. I think this is the first time we've seen the face of a Stormcast. link They also get Griff hounds as a unit now. link Also they have lowered prices on much of the rest of the Stormcast army by doubling the number of figs in the box for only a slight increase in price per box. So the Judicators and Liberators who were 5 for $50 USD are now 10 for $62 USD and the Prosecutors are now 6 for $74 USD instead of 3 for $70. USD I guess I'll be getting some more reinforcements for my Stormcast pretty soon. |
nvdoyle | 11 Feb 2017 12:57 p.m. PST |
Well now…looks like I might need to make some Sigmarines… |
Wretched Peasant Scum | 11 Feb 2017 2:16 p.m. PST |
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The H Man | 11 Feb 2017 4:32 p.m. PST |
I noticed the bare head in the new box set. What next, bolt guns? Give them time, give them time. (I'm not sure they have pistols or rifles like before, so it may be a logical step, world wise, as crazy as it sounds) I wander what the reason for the extra figures is? Are they over stocked and need the get rid of them? Have they made enough on previous runs, so have put in extras in the new production run? Are they actually listening to customers and lowering prices? I suspect it is because most people who would buy them have. The rush (if there was one) is over. Now they can shrink a bit of shelf space by just putting extras in fewer boxes, also making them more likely to sell to those who don't have them or may buy more. By this point mould costs and such are probably paid off, so its only casting and packing (extra figs make packing cheaper also). |
nvdoyle | 11 Feb 2017 5:52 p.m. PST |
What next, bolt guns? Look at them again… |
Xintao | 11 Feb 2017 6:25 p.m. PST |
The one guy is loading a clip? LOL. Yeah not Space Marines. |
Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut | 11 Feb 2017 7:14 p.m. PST |
Just remember, bolt guns made their first appearance in WHFB 2nd edition, and were later exported to WH40K. This is just GW going back to their roots :-) |
nvdoyle | 11 Feb 2017 10:29 p.m. PST |
The more I look at them, the more I like them – shave off the 'bows' from the pistols, and you've got a good close combat loadout. As for the price drop, I'm all for it! |
Ivan DBA | 11 Feb 2017 10:40 p.m. PST |
The Griffhounds are cool, and not a bad price for GW. I'm going to pick some up for Frostgrave. |
Prince Rupert of the Rhine | 12 Feb 2017 3:34 a.m. PST |
Maybe it's just me but I'm having trouble reconciling the GW description below with the actual models Vanguard-Hunters The daring raiders and expert scouts of Sigmar's hosts Somehow in my head full gold plate mail doesn't seem the best choice for scout raiders… |
WarWizard | 12 Feb 2017 5:30 a.m. PST |
I am not GW fan, but those figure look Kool. I really like those Griffhounds too. |
Xintao | 12 Feb 2017 8:10 a.m. PST |
Gryph-Hounds link is here link
Yeah, they are cool. I will have to pick them up for other games. |
HUBCommish | 12 Feb 2017 10:24 a.m. PST |
Pictors, the first helmet-less Stormcast was the Warhammer World exclusive Errant-Questor: link |
Pictors Studio | 12 Feb 2017 12:43 p.m. PST |
That is a pretty cool fig. I totally missed that. Thanks for the info. |
HUBCommish | 12 Feb 2017 1:23 p.m. PST |
Pictors, if you manage to get someone in the UK to nab one for you from Warhammer World, I'd suggest you also ask them to get you the Ironwarp Citadel book: link |
Pictors Studio | 12 Feb 2017 2:14 p.m. PST |
I'll definitely have to get one of those. I plan on going to the UK before the end of the year, I'm from Nottingham actually. I haven't been home in more than a decade. That book does look pretty cool. The scenario books have been one of the best things about Age of Sigmar. |
Mithmee | 13 Feb 2017 7:28 p.m. PST |
What next, bolt guns? Well if you cut off those crossbolt things and give each of these guys a chain swords you would have some Space Marines. Plus with the current 40K "End of Times" I can see 40K going the way of WFB. Kill off and replaced with a AoS 40K game. |
Pictors Studio | 14 Feb 2017 5:26 a.m. PST |
One could only hope. If it does for 40K what AoS did for WHFB you'd have a pretty good thing going on. |
Centurio Prime | 14 Feb 2017 8:29 a.m. PST |
I am really hoping that GW will give 40k the AoS treatment so the douchebag uber competitive players will rage quit and we can have better games with more variety in miniatures seeing use. |
Mithmee | 14 Feb 2017 1:23 p.m. PST |
Well Pictors, It is sure looking like that is what they are going to do, since the 40K "End of Time" is tracking right along just like the WFB "End of Time". The fallout is going to be interesting if they do kill off 40K. |
Pictors Studio | 14 Feb 2017 4:20 p.m. PST |
If it is anything like the fall out from Age of Sigmar, they will have to open up some new manufacturing plants to keep up with the demand. |
Mithmee | 14 Feb 2017 6:34 p.m. PST |
Not where I live because the demand is not what it used to be from 20 years ago. |
The H Man | 14 Feb 2017 8:12 p.m. PST |
I heard, perhaps wrongly, that 40k was most of their sales. So if they AOS 40k, I expect a lot of angry people. Then again, as AOS has happened, it is kind of expected to happen to 40K, so people may well be pulling out now. Clearly not the time to jump on the 40K band wagon, at least. Play it safe with a more stable company/games. (if there is such a thing) |
Mithmee | 14 Feb 2017 11:13 p.m. PST |
True, since Pictors is totally into AoS which to me is nothing but a bucket of dice game. While he thinks that everyone is loving it, when that is not the case and there are many WFB players who went to; King or Wars, Dragon Rampart or still playing WFB and want nothing to do with AoS. Now GW is working to do the same with 40K and by this Fall 40K just might be killed off and replace with something that is just going to drive more players away from GW. |
Capt Flash | 15 Feb 2017 8:10 a.m. PST |
All the folks who have given AoS a fair shake have liked it. Nothing wrong with liking several games at once. 😂 Edit: Everyone that I personally know, in my safe little corner of the world…. |
Centurio Prime | 15 Feb 2017 8:55 a.m. PST |
Maybe AoS-ing 40k would be the final straw which sends GW over the edge and into bankruptcy! Then after more than 20 years of failed predictions, the neckbeard GW haters will finally be right! Yes, this is the summer it will finally happen! The End is near! |
Thomas Thomas | 15 Feb 2017 9:39 a.m. PST |
I' still suprised that they did not just keep both versions of the game going AOS and traditional Warhammer (though it badly needs a reboot). Maybe re 40K they will keep both versions going (as both use round bases anyway). TomT |
Centurio Prime | 15 Feb 2017 10:28 a.m. PST |
Rumor has it that the 40k rules will be greatly simplified, but there will also be a version of the rules for 30k which will be a revision of 7th edition rather than a major change. |
Mithmee | 15 Feb 2017 2:22 p.m. PST |
Well here how they can really simplify the game. Each player starts with a bucket fill of 100 dice and them each of them rolls these dice on the table. First round you need 6's any dice that is not a 6 is removed Place the dice that were 6's back into the bucket and rolls the dice again, though this time you need 5's and removing any that are not a 5. You do this for four more rounds and the winner is the individual who has the most dice left after the 6th round. If you want a bigger game just put in more dice into the bucket. |
The H Man | 15 Feb 2017 3:46 p.m. PST |
Maybe they could move to 100 sided dice. Make the fun (pain) last longer. The only reason most AOS players don't sport beards is they have not hit puberty yet. (As in, they are mostly kids) If you really hated GW you wouldn't be so concerned with what is going on with it. You would just turn away. It's the fact they had a good thing going a while back that keeps my interest, and I am sure other's too. |
Centurio Prime | 16 Feb 2017 6:18 a.m. PST |
Everyone I know who plays AoS, with the exception of 1 16 year old, is like 40 years old. Young people are too busy with card and computer games for the most part. |
Centurio Prime | 16 Feb 2017 6:19 a.m. PST |
And that 16 year old is much better to play against than most of the WAAC adults who play 40k (and some AoS). |
Capt Flash | 16 Feb 2017 8:26 a.m. PST |
Lol, I was going to say something similar to that, Centurio Prime! Most of the local players here are 30+ years old. |
Judge Doug | 17 Feb 2017 8:49 a.m. PST |
Since Mithmee loves anecdotal evidence, I am 36 and I love Age of Sigmar. My brother is 40, and my friends that play are 38 and 35. The local group includes several parents including a mother. GW's financial statements reveal a (surprise!) different story than what Mithmee and H Man would believe. After GW killed off Warhammer, and introduced Age of Sigmar, they have turned HUGE profits. and yes Mithmee I agree, Kings of War is a better game than Warhammer Fantasy, and I am glad that GW bowed out of the mass battles arena. Everyone can play their favorite edition of Warhammer Fantasy (6th/7th personally) or Kings of War. Why bitch about GW killing Warhammer when your favorite editon is 5th? It's been dead to you since then anyway. |
Mithmee | 17 Feb 2017 5:15 p.m. PST |
they have turned HUGE profits Maybe for this year but for the last several years their financials were showing that the were losing profits. Since last July they have put out a lot of stand alone games (not great games but very pricey) and for FLGS's to get a good deal they were forced to buy quite a few of these games. Thus GW gets to show a huge profit but this is only a one time profit and not something that will be sustaining since these games were one offs so GW could get some quick cash. |
Mithmee | 17 Feb 2017 5:18 p.m. PST |
Why bitch about GW killing Warhammer when your favorite editon is 5th? Actually 4th Edition and prior. But I think fairly soon I will get to rant about GW killing off 40K. |
HUBCommish | 17 Feb 2017 6:19 p.m. PST |
Mithmee, I'm not sure why you just can't comprehend this, but I have mentioned before that GW doesn't cut a discount if a store buys more of these board games. What they do is let you have them and let you pay later. It's called terms, or net. They do this only if you agree to buy them in large numbers, say 50 or 100. Stores can still order as few as they want. Again, if your local store has too many unsold board games from GW, it's because they ordered too many and were unable to sell them. This is entirely their own fault for either overestimating their own market's demands, or because of their incompetence at selling. Selling and marketing a bunch of board games for a lot of money sounds like a pretty good way to make money. And GW has been doing it over and over again with various designs. If something happens successfully on a regular basis I'm not sure how that could be labeled as unsustainable one-time profit events. You sure do rant a lot about something you pretend to not care about any longer. |
McWong73 | 17 Feb 2017 7:00 p.m. PST |
Those profits were mostly due to cost savings in the back end and at retail, though I'm not denying their sales haven't improved. |
Capt Flash | 18 Feb 2017 1:04 a.m. PST |
Sales have been through the roof at my local shop. There's been a 40K explosion that's lasted for the past four or so years. Started with 6th Edition and got even bigger with the advent of 7th. And the Horus heresy board games and the one with the knights sold out repeatedly. The one bad move was when one of the previous purchasing managers ordering far too many copies of Space Hulk, which eventually sold out as well. |
Pictors Studio | 18 Feb 2017 6:57 a.m. PST |
"Those profits were mostly due to cost savings in the back end and at retail, though I'm not denying their sales haven't improved." Sales have improved. The first year of AoS sales were an improvement over any single year of sales from the last three years of WHFB. Launching AoS was a very good move for GW. It, and the Horus Heresy board games, not that almost anyone plays them as board games, have brought a ton of people back into the fold. |
Earl of the North | 04 Mar 2017 7:37 a.m. PST |
Those Hunters are to me pretty much Space Marines, hell I'd have used them in the past as Space Marines Veterans in fancier armour with very little conversion work needed. I think I'm past the hate stage with GW, I'm not interested in their figures any more but I don't feel the need to attack them or complain that they are not producing a product that I want to purchase. |