"East German Mot-Schützen Platoon" Topic
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Tango01 | 04 Feb 2017 10:28 p.m. PST |
"The East German Volksarmee, or Peoples' Army, has the reputation of being the most well-trained of all the Warsaw Pact armies. It has a high proportion of professional soldiers and is well-equipped. 9. Panzerdivision, or 9th Tank Division, in particular, is equipped with T-72M tanks and BMP-1 and BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles…"
Main page link Amicalement Armand |
EJNashIII | 10 Feb 2017 10:03 p.m. PST |
pretty cool. Being that I own some East German field uniforms I have some suggestions on the painting. You want more variety in the color. The top and bottoms can be from this color to a green. The helmet generally is a darker color than the fow picture.
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Achtung Minen | 11 Feb 2017 5:17 a.m. PST |
There was a helmet cover, though, which would be the uniform colour. The truly green uniforms (Uniform Trageversuch, or UTV) were scheduled to be issued in 1990 but the end of the GDR meant that they were all mothballed. They were different than the Schutzenanzug that was used throughout the 70's and 80's… there were no more dark grey shoulder boards (the Dienstgradabzeichen was moved to the upper right arm and was made bigger), the jacket had four cargo pockets, the sleeves and ankles could be buttoned down and the entire webbing was changed to green velcro. It was all still Strichtarn, but instead of a brown base, it was green. The appropriate uniform for the 1980's would be Teil 2 Sturmgepack, grey webbing and the tan Strichtarn Schutzenanzug. If you are interested in the UTV uniform for a "beyond the Berlin Wall" 1990's NVA, this website has some good information: link Otherwise, this website has good information on all the generations of NVA gear, from beginning to end: link |
Tango01 | 11 Feb 2017 11:14 a.m. PST |
Glad you like them my friend!. Thanks for the info guys!. Amicalement Armand
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GeoffQRF | 11 Feb 2017 3:10 p.m. PST |
When I do mine I do need to focus on that helmet, as it is notably more cone shaped than domed |
Achtung Minen | 11 Feb 2017 4:49 p.m. PST |
I think BF did pretty well with the helmets… they are not so conical in person as they sometimes seem in photos, to be honest. |
GeoffQRF | 12 Feb 2017 1:08 a.m. PST |
So in real life they don't look quite like they are in real life. |
Achtung Minen | 12 Feb 2017 4:06 a.m. PST |
Uh… a photo isn't real life, mate. If you don't want to take my advice, that is fine, but I do own several sets of BDU's, helmets, net and camo helmet covers, Knobelbecher jack boots, paratrooper boots, overseas cap, gasmasks and bags, ABC suits and gloves, magazine bags (both sickle and long types), drum magazine holders, the old grenade pouches and Brotbeutel, F73 compasses, Teil 2 webbing and backpacks, belts, M79 AKM bayonets and bakelite sheaths, canteents and slips, zeltbahns, wool socks, longjohns, hankerchiefs and towels, suspenders, winter gloves, three finger gloves, ski masks, shoulder boards, MPi slings… I know I am missing something… hell, I even have a copy of Vom Sinn des Soldatseins and some Dienstvorschriften. I also have a veritible library of books on the NVA, although those are of less interest to you if you are not a native German speaker. If you haven't seen the gear first hand and held it for yourself, then there always things you will miss. Photos are all about angles, lighting etc. If you want to go by photos, you should at least be sure to look at multiple photos from multiple angles. For example, here are a few different shots that show how flushed out the Stahlhelm is.
Note, the Stahlhelm design was actually a late WW2 German design that was never put into mass production before the end of the war. It was distinct from the paratrooper helmet. The problem with the guy in the first image someone posted is that he's wearing the helmet incorrectly. Either he has to adjust the inner size band, or he got the wrong sized helmet, because it is resting way too high on his head. His trousers are also too big and one wouldn't normally wear the Stumgepäck (rather, it is left in the squad transport). His ABC bag is also missing. But don't take my word for it, do whatever you like. |
GeoffQRF | 12 Feb 2017 7:33 a.m. PST |
So far what you are showing me and saying is pretty much confirming what I whought in the first place, that it sits lower on the head and is more flushed out than domed. |
Achtung Minen | 12 Feb 2017 7:55 a.m. PST |
Possibly… I wouldn't personally use the term "cone" though. In any case, the BF models are pretty good to my eye. |
GeoffQRF | 12 Feb 2017 8:45 a.m. PST |
No, not cone, but somehow conical. Maybe that was a poor choice of description. You said it better with flushed out, especially around the base, somehow less domed. I don't yet know if I can do any better. I'll have to have a play later and see. |
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