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Tango0101 Feb 2017 3:44 p.m. PST

…Resistance In Europe And SEALs In Vietnam.

"During World War II, at the behest of the U.S. Army, Bell Laboratories tested sound suppressors for various firearms. The best known of the company's designs was a specialized submachine gun that went on to serve U.S. special operators through three wars.

Task & Purpose got a chance to inspect one of them, a modified .45 caliber M3 "Grease Gun" during a behind-the-scenes tour at the Naval Heritage and History Command in Washington, D.C. Though it might look crude, the design proved rugged and reliable in combat for more than two decades.

In 1942, the Army got the first standard M3s. Engineers crafted the weapon as a replacement for the iconic, but also expensive and heavy, M1 Thompson. At the time, the service paid a mere $20 USD for each of the eight-pound guns…"
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"…There are no public reports about their use in combat…"

Let me say that in the Malvinas / Falkland conflict I saw many of them and of course they went into combat … they were very bad … we called it "La batata" ("The sweet potato") and those who had them … were taken for dead….


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saltflats192901 Feb 2017 5:35 p.m. PST

Attack Force Z!

jdginaz01 Feb 2017 9:21 p.m. PST

" … they were very bad … "

In what way?

tulsatime01 Feb 2017 11:13 p.m. PST

I would like to also ask about in what ways were they bad. I am interested in your comments because you have seen them in action. I hope you do not mind my asking.

Major Mike02 Feb 2017 7:44 a.m. PST

There can be feed issues from the magazine. At a man sized target at 25m, if you fire 3 or more rounds and you aim at the hip on the left side the first round will hit the hip, the second the chest and the 3rd might hit the shoulder on the right side. Range limitations. On the plus side, it fires slow enough the quick short pulls on the trigger can get you single shots.

Tango0102 Feb 2017 11:03 a.m. PST

It got stuck all the time … it overheated if it was used in long bursts … it did not have the slightest precision of shot … a real crap … nobody want them…

In the movie "Los Chicos de la Guerra" there is an scene about them…

Not recomended….


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Wackmole902 Feb 2017 11:12 a.m. PST

I know in the Korean War they would freeze up easily.

Tango0102 Feb 2017 10:04 p.m. PST

Some guys prefer an Old Mauser (same of WW2)…


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David Hinkley03 Feb 2017 12:08 a.m. PST

I got the chance to put a couple of magazines through a M3A1 in the mid 70s.. It was accurate enough, after the first burst, all rounds on an E Type silhouette at 25 meters, using the stock and sights. No feed or other reliability problems, but it was range fire with a properly maintained weapon. I liked it, but then I also like the M-14 and M-60.

Tango0103 Feb 2017 12:15 p.m. PST

Probe it in an wild enviroment… without possibility of even clean it… and then said to me… (smile)


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Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2017 10:56 a.m. PST

What can you expect from a weapon designed to be a cheap alternative to the Thompson. You get what you pay for.

Tango0104 Feb 2017 11:28 a.m. PST

True!


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