Sapeur | 29 Jan 2017 1:56 p.m. PST |
Looking for details of the standard carried by La Mancha Lancers. Any information appreciated. Thanks. |
JimDuncanUK | 29 Jan 2017 3:11 p.m. PST |
This might answer your question. I have an eye infection so I can't read all of it at the moment. link |
Sapeur | 29 Jan 2017 3:18 p.m. PST |
JimDuncan Thank you for your information. However it is my understanding that this is not the unit I am seeking information on. I will pursue my research further and advise. |
Tango01 | 29 Jan 2017 3:48 p.m. PST |
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Sapeur | 29 Jan 2017 3:59 p.m. PST |
Armand I am very grateful for the links you have provided. I had established the uniform details for La Mancha Lancers but not what standard, or guidon, they carried. Maybe Eagle Miniatures are incorrect in manufacturing a standard bearer? It may well be that they did not carry one. This is what I am trying to establish. Regards Tom |
Tango01 | 29 Jan 2017 4:26 p.m. PST |
In the pictures I have send you… Seems that they have not and Standart… only a Guidon as you can see there…
I tried for another ways… and no match… Sorry my friend. Amicalement Armand
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robert piepenbrink | 29 Jan 2017 5:32 p.m. PST |
Maybe, but I would guess that to be a lance pennon and not a guidon. Don't know. I've built the unit now and then, but if it had a standard I haven't found a reference. Doesn't mean there wasn't one, of course, and more than one "best guess" standard has shown up on a Napoleonics tabletop. |
Sapeur | 30 Jan 2017 2:20 a.m. PST |
Yes I assumed that was a lance pennon rather than a guidon/standard. My search continues. There is no mention of La Mancha in the Gronin / Summerfield book that I have found. |
deadhead | 30 Jan 2017 4:01 a.m. PST |
half the fun will be to create your own then. Plenty of documentation for La Mancha flags in history………. |
Sapeur | 30 Jan 2017 5:44 a.m. PST |
deadhead Had started to look at this as a possibility. Get Stuart at Maverick Models to do the honours maybe. |
keithbarker | 30 Jan 2017 7:59 a.m. PST |
I have never seen any information about a standard for this unit. The Royal Decree 1768 required regiments of cavalry (guard, line, dragons and light) to use standards of damask or velvet in blue, red or white depending on the regiment, with the royal arms embroidered on the obverse, and the regiment's arms on the reverse. In the 4 corners, the fleurs-de-lys must be embroidered in gold or silver. Cravats for all banners and flags should be of red colour, this being the national colour. The finials and fringes were to be gold or silver depending on the regiment. This decree remained in force until 1833 although it was modified by that of 1803 which said that the light cavalry would not carry standards in the field, one standard being retained at the depot for ceremonial occasions. So you have a few choices… 1. No standard in the field, being light cavalry. 2. A standard that corresponds to the regulations. 3. A completely non-regulation standard. I would guess at 1 (no standard) but I don't think anyone could prove you wrong whatever you choose |
Sapeur | 30 Jan 2017 8:09 a.m. PST |
keithbarker Your comments are appreciated. I think I will try for 2. as first choice and 3. as Plan B!! |