"Bavarian battalions using HAT 1/72 figures" Topic

Rather than performing an exhaustive google search I thought I would ask the collective minds of the forum. Will I have all the needed figures to form a couple of battalions of Bavarians if I buy both boxes of the HAT figures? None of my sources at hand give good info as the exact organization used by the Bavarians. I generally use around a 1:30 figure ratio when basing. How would you base these figures per battalion to build a brigade?

I believe box 8028 Bavarian infantry could be used for the elite companies. These figures all have plumes. Box 8169 Bavarian fusilier could be used for the line companies.

What period are your Bavarians going to be? In the early years up to about Wagram they had a distinctly Germanic organisation. After that they eventually went to a French style. So the campaign you choose is important.

In 1812, the Bavarian Battalions were organized along French lines. In VI Corps (St. Cyr), typical Brigades consisted of 2 Regiments (of 2 battalions each) plus a Light Inf.Battalion (total of 5 Btns). (from pg 185 of Haythornthwaite's "uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow 1812 book.)

I suggest at 1:30 ratio making the battalions 20 figs. That would yield 4 stands of 5 or 5 stands of 4. Of course, base to your rules used.

Hope that helps.

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Tom

Mine are done on with 4 to a base, 40mm by 40mm. 6 bases to a unit. I've got a brigade just about finished, terraining the bases is all I have to do. Mine are all in 28mm though.

Both boxs will give you more than enough for two battalions, with spares left over to paint as light infantry. You will need to convert some standard bearers – pick a suitable pose, remove weapon etc and replace with brass wire

The artillery set has a lot of figures, including some that make extra officers or conversion fodder for standard bearers – esp the guy carrying the cartridge

I would need the organization for the 1808-1812 period. As to basing, my French for that era are based in nine companies of three figures each (1 grenadier and 1 chasseur company) 27 figures total so maybe more of a 33:1 ratio. 1812 French are based six companies of four figures each. Thanks for the tip on extra figures from the artillery set. I'll add that too. Were the artillery organized along French lines of one battery per division?

My current basing trend is to use three bases per battalion. Works for Shako II, Carnage&Glory and in a pinch Napoleon at War (where one base is the width of two). The figure count only matters when I play a modified version on Rally Round the Flag.

From 12 Aug 1808 each line infantry regiment had 2 grenadier companies and 6 fusilier companies i.e. 2 battalions of 1 grenadier and three fusilier companies each with schutzen incorporated in the companies. The light infantry battalions had four companies. The strength of a company was now fixed at 180 men.

By the Army Order of 29 Apr 1811 there was a completely new organization of regimental and battalion structures. The existing 12 line infantry regiments would now have 2 field battalions of 6 companies (1 grenadier, 1 Schützen-, 4 fusilier companies) and one reserve battalion to 4 companies. Each company consisted of 150 men, the regiment reaching a target strength of 2,436 men. The existing six light infantry battalions had one Karabinier-, one Schützen and 4 Fusilier companies plus 2 Reserve Fusilier companies, each about 150 men strong. The battalion thus had a total of 1224 men.

So, 1808 to 1811 each battalion could be four companies of six each and after that, the same organisation as the French, six companies of four each.

Hope that helps.

Yes, Thanks!