"Greeks and Alpini 1940" Topic
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KTravlos | 22 Jan 2017 6:05 a.m. PST |
So I got the I ain't shot mum rules, and I am focusing on the actions during the first section of the Battles of Pindus (27-28 Octomber) when "Julia" struck at the Pindus Detachment. Tw questions 1) I have the In the Footsteps of Legions source book, but it does not have Italian force organisation charts for Greece 1940 (only North and East Africa). Now it is true I can just use the historical force organisation, but I wonder why this is the case? 2) Which companies and at what scales make Greeks for 1940, and Italians for 1940, especially Alpini. I know the Alpini probably fought in helmets, but one random figure here and there will give some distinctive feel. I know there are dedicated ranges here and there for all scales, bar 6mm, so I would like to have a run-down of them. (I do like 6mm so any suggestions are welcome) Here is what I know 10mm Italians for 1940 Pithead Miniatures Pendraken 10mm Greeks for 1940 Pithead Miniatures. So what else is out there |
79thPA | 22 Jan 2017 7:05 a.m. PST |
Early War Miniatures has you covered in 20mm. I believe Battle Front did a series of article on modeling the Greeks using their existing ranges. Maybe they used Hungarians to get the Greek helmet shape? |
Grelber | 22 Jan 2017 10:22 a.m. PST |
Burns made 28mm Greeks and later switched to 15mm Greeks. They were sold by Rifraf Miniatures in the UK. Unfortunately, my link doesn't seem to work just now. I have both and they are quite nice. Battlefront (FoW) makes a couple special packs of Greeks, including a command pack with grenade launchers and officers, but mostly recommends using Italians for the regular figures (the Greek helmet was almost a copy of the Italian, and both wore puttees, trousers and tunics). These are 15mm figures. Grelber |
Altefritz | 22 Jan 2017 5:48 p.m. PST |
From italian wikipedia. (My translation): Alpini Divisions were different from Infantry Divisions because every regiment had its own support services (pioniers, artillery, ….) assigned on a permanent basis: in such a way every regiment had a degree of independency in action. There was no Blackshirt component. Each division was on two Alpini Regiments (3 battalions) and one Artillery Regiment (whose gun where carried by mules), an Engineer battalion, a Chemical warfare coy, 2 "replacement" battalions and Divisional Services, (Medical Section, Field Hospital, Supply Train) At June 10, 1940, an Alpine Division had 14.786 men, with 24 75/13 guns, 78 mortars (54 by 45 mm and 24 by 81 mm) and 234 machine guns (68 heavy and 166 light). The Division was moved by means of 252 motorized vehicles, 46 motorcycles, 5.327 mules and horse, 225 carts and 57 bikes. Fabrizio |
KTravlos | 23 Jan 2017 6:49 a.m. PST |
Grazie Fabrizio. Nella Battaglia di Pindus "Julia" hai uno regimente de tre battaglioni (8th), and uno regiment de dui battaglioni (9th). Scusi mi brutti italiano. |
KTravlos | 23 Jan 2017 11:36 a.m. PST |
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Altefritz | 23 Jan 2017 3:27 p.m. PST |
KTravlos, your italian is better than my greek ;) The Julia started the campaign with the 8° Rgt. alpini (battaglioni "Tolmezzo", "Gemona" e "Cividale"), 9° Rgt. alpini (battaglioni "Vicenza" e "l'Aquila"), the 3° artiglieria da montagna <Mountain artillery> (gruppi "Conegliano" e "Udine") and services. Altogether 278 officiers, 8.863 NCO and privates, 20 gun, 2.316 mules and horse. |
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