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Crow Bait16 Jan 2017 7:45 p.m. PST

My Napoleonic armies are 2mm, based on 20X10mm for infantry, 20X20mm for cavalry. Will this work for Shako 2? If I need to rebase, what would you suggest?

Crow Bait16 Jan 2017 7:47 p.m. PST

Sorry for the double post, new phone I have to get use to.

forwardmarchstudios16 Jan 2017 8:22 p.m. PST

Any pics of your figs?
I do 3mm on 20mm x 10mm for both. Any reason why 20mm square for cavalry? Just curious.
EDIT: I don't do Shako 2, however.
You might find my blog useful since you're doing microstuff. My chalk-mats might work particularly well for 2mm.

1809in3mm.blogspot.com

Crow Bait16 Jan 2017 8:26 p.m. PST

They were based on Napoleonic Principles of War, which calls for deeper cav bases.
I already have ur blog bookmarked. A lot of great ideas there.

Dexter Ward17 Jan 2017 3:55 a.m. PST

It would work; you need to be able to distinguish column, line and square (so at least 2 bases per unit).

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2017 5:14 a.m. PST

Should work--and I would never rebase 2mm anyway. If you do stand for stand--one of yours for every stand called for in the rules--you should be just fine, but you lose the 2mm advantage of a small tabletop. Dexter's right that you can reduce the number of stands and shrink all distances but two stands/40mm frontage is a minimum.

Crow Bait17 Jan 2017 2:23 p.m. PST

Thanks for the replies, guys.

vtsaogames18 Jan 2017 8:18 a.m. PST

Shako doesn't require 3 stands per battalion. That is a suggestion. You could use more stands of your little guys. If the battalion frontage is the same as the 15mm unit, everything will work the same. My guess is something under 100 mm would, so 4 of your stands per unit. My numbers may be off since I haven't played Shako in a long time, but you get the idea.

keyhat18 Jan 2017 8:49 a.m. PST

Welcome to Shako 2. This excellent rules system goes back to 1995 (with the publication of Shako 1) and retains it's popularity today.

In fact, if I counted correctly, there are 12 separate Shako 2 games being played (11 different battles, sponsored or GM'd by multiple groups ) at Cold Wars 2017 in March of this year.

Regardless of how many stands per battalion you use, to keep things in their proper relationship, just scale everything from the length of an infantry battalion in line.

For example, musketry range= Line length x1.2; Skirmisher movement= line length x 1.8, etc. In practice, I just round these to 1 and 1.5 for easy recall.

Good luck.

Crow Bait18 Jan 2017 8:26 p.m. PST

Thanks. Your information was exactly what i needed.

1815Guy06 Feb 2017 5:11 p.m. PST

heres a Shako question…. one of those which we assumed we knew the answer but I dont think is actually included in the rules…

Cavalry charge a unit of infantry, which receives the cavalry in line formation. The infantry havent tried to form square, just stood in line and volleyed the cavalry.

If the cavalry close to melee, do the infantry use the full melee factor or the lower/disordered melee factor.

We played it for years as the latter until somebody queried it, and, sure enough there is nothing actually stated in the rules that we could find.

Any views chaps?

Ruchel08 Feb 2017 8:03 a.m. PST

1815Guy,

It is a 'Frontal Melee', so the battalion in line uses the full melee factor (Frontal MR). Please, see sec. 11.2.3 and 11.2.4a in the original rules (Shako).

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