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21 Jan 2017 11:29 p.m. PST
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Ney Ney16 Jan 2017 1:27 p.m. PST

I am going to start a ECW army in 28mm for Pikemans Lament. I am new to the period so would love any suggestions of wich figures companies to look at.

I do want to do 28mm and am not wanting to use warlord hard plastic figures as I don't enjoy them for my other periods.

I have found Empress, Foundry, Essex, and Renegade so far. Who else would people suggest I look at?

Thank you for your help. Like I say I am new to this period.

Personal logo DColtman Supporting Member of TMP16 Jan 2017 1:34 p.m. PST

Dixon ECW figs have a lot of character.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP16 Jan 2017 2:48 p.m. PST

Bicorne are very nice, but a bit outsized if you're mixing manufacturers.

Renegade are nice but expensive.

Irregular has some.

Old Glory has an extensive line, and are a lot of bang for the buck.

I have a soft spot for Foundry's, but the newer Perry ones are even better. I'm thinking of building a force (for PL and Donnybrook) using the two (I've had about fifty Foundry ECW squirreled away for years).

Phillius Supporting Member of TMP16 Jan 2017 2:49 p.m. PST

Bicorne do the original Renegade figures, plus a lot more in the same style.
Redoubt Enterprises also do a significant range.

Cooldude16 Jan 2017 2:51 p.m. PST

It's 25mm but Old Glory is a phenomenal bang for your buck especially if you get the Old Glory Membership. I am nearly done with a scots army that is mostly OG stuff and am happy with how it turned out. Maybe not quite the detail as other lines but easy to paint which important when you're trying to get 300+ figures on the table. Good luck with whatever route you choose!

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP16 Jan 2017 2:59 p.m. PST

I'll third Old Glory. Or Blue Moon if you'd consider 18mm.

scomac16 Jan 2017 3:18 p.m. PST

Are you in the US? The Old Glory ECW line is excellent, and with an Old Glory Army card, the price is about the same as plastics.

Ney Ney16 Jan 2017 3:29 p.m. PST

Thank you every one this is very helpful.

I really like how the bicorne look. Not to worry if they are big as I will by all figures from that manufacturer.

I will also look at the others you have all suggested, thank you.

IanKHemm16 Jan 2017 5:25 p.m. PST

Avoid Renegade. Worst service ever. I can't comment on the figures because they never arrived and all inquiries went unanswered.

Phillius Supporting Member of TMP16 Jan 2017 5:41 p.m. PST

I believe Renegade are out of business these days. Bicorne are a safer bet.

Personal logo sillypoint Supporting Member of TMP16 Jan 2017 6:44 p.m. PST

I can recommend Irregular Miniature's range.
These rules are deceptive, as you think it will not cost that much to field a side…a couple of hundred dollars later, you find yourself a couple of units and a command figure short. 😜

Codsticker16 Jan 2017 9:34 p.m. PST

…the newer Perry ones are even better…
I just Finished painting some Perry's Command models- I really like them.

Ney Ney17 Jan 2017 3:39 a.m. PST

Thank you all again

YogiBearMinis Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2017 5:46 a.m. PST

Consider some Warlord plastics also--they sort of mix in the middle between Bicorne and the "smaller" ranges. I am using a mix of Warlord and Old Glory myself, with some Foundry thrown in.

Rdfraf Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2017 7:19 a.m. PST

If anyone is interested, I'm looking to sell off my unpainted 28mm Perry ECW English and Scottish armies.

Captain Gideon17 Jan 2017 7:46 a.m. PST

Rdfraf what are you asking for your Perry ECW English Army?

Michael

Big Red Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2017 8:01 a.m. PST

Here is a photo of several units of Old Glory pike awaiting flock for The Pikeman's Lament:

picture

Ney Ney17 Jan 2017 10:53 a.m. PST

Oh them is nice!!

General Kirchner17 Jan 2017 11:06 a.m. PST

beautiful figures and paint jobs!

I have a mix of ecw figures having collected them over the last 11-12 years or so.

I have renegade, Perry, and now a slowing growing collection of warlords.

I got the renegades when the WH ECW book came out, and they are HUGE. I like some of the detailing, although they are some thick manly figures, and have a hard time fitting them on 20mm square bases or 4 to a 40x40 mm square base which is my standard for infantry. The cavalry are also very large although the horses are not as "chunky" in proportion as the human figures.

I was not able to get any for years, so I gave up on that size. I try to use them brigaded together so the disparity in size does not show as much compared to my other minis. I am not so much of a snob as to replace any miniature I actually have managed to paint over the years.

also very easy to paint with much detail available to a paint brush and not hidden. the sword sheaths do look like they are carrying iron bars.

The Perry pikeman and general figs I got in a swap, when the enthusiasm faded around here for ECW. If you like Perry's then you will like them. They tend to be a lot more slender than the renegade/BiCorne's in addition to being shorter. think young teens vs large chunky men. I did not get any Perry shotte in the trade, so I have partnered them with some warlord shot, and they look good together. The two Perry pike units with warlord shotte I have look good together in a brigade with a warlord pike unit. I really like the 3 general's mounted on horse I got. The are in a variety of poses and equipment and add well to the army. I just have them give orders to the renegades via courier so they don't mock them for their size.

The warlord's are a mixed bag. I only have plastics except for the dragoons, which I have not painted yet. I like the cavalry although the weapons tend to be really slender and fragile. the metal dragoons sculpts are not great looking in my book.

The foot are good, although small, and could use more variation. Difficult to paint some detail. Easier to base coat, and dip than anything.

Of course the cost of the warlords is certainly less than I paid for the large hunks of metal.

TBeyer Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2017 11:27 a.m. PST

If anyone in the U.S. is looking for Bicorne ECW, I have some for sale cheap. All bare metal or primed, mostly pike and musket, plus a few dragoons.

Timmo uk17 Jan 2017 11:47 a.m. PST

Although my army is old style 25mm I have painted a couple of dozen Perry and really like them. If I were starting afresh they are what I'd choose – good price as well.

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2017 3:10 p.m. PST

I do like the round bases here but I feel like ranking up matters in this period.

YogiBearMinis Supporting Member of TMP18 Jan 2017 12:51 p.m. PST

The shed Wars blog has a huge project of Warlord plastics for ECW--around 500 figures, based on round bases and then on 12-man trays. Take a look for what ranked figures on round bases look like.

Henry Martini18 Jan 2017 1:23 p.m. PST

It's a pity some of the OG pikemen are wearing lobster pots; otherwise good, chunky figures.

Big Red Supporting Member of TMP18 Jan 2017 3:14 p.m. PST

Good point Henry Martini but there are quite a lot of OG pikemen in other style helmets, in soft hats, monteros, etc. In fact there are very few in pots and one could well choose not to use them at all. And whose to say that private Parts didn't find one on a dead cavalryman wherever he got it and decided he fancied himself foot cavalry.

Thomas O25 Jan 2017 8:57 a.m. PST

TBeyer,

What do have and what are asking? You can email me at thomo1315(at)gmail(dot)com. Also do know how they compare in size to Warlord's figures?

Thom

Artorius Inactive Member26 Jan 2017 6:10 p.m. PST

I love Bicorne. They're made by the same sculptor as Renegade, but the Bicorne range is bigger. Both are quite large as someone noted above. They have a lot of character, though, and a lot of variety, and they're beautiful figures.

Bicorne is pretty fast with fulfilling orders. Renegade is good, too. I've ordered a lot from both.

EricThe Shed27 Jan 2017 4:37 a.m. PST

Thanks for the plug YogiBearsMinias

The blog link can be found here

link

each post has a link to the next. One of the posts lists many of the available ranges

Foresightpaint29 Jan 2017 9:27 a.m. PST

For me it has to be a mix of Bicorne and Renegade although some of the cavalry dont mix that well

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