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trynda170111 Jan 2017 12:17 p.m. PST

I might be the only gamer who likes spaceships who doesn't have the X-Wing game by FFG, but with limited funds I find it to be relatively expensive, despite the cool starfighter minis that make it very tempting.

However, I've seen mention on a few gaming blogs of online resources, does that include any rules?

So, as I have quite a number of the original trilogy Micromachines Star Wars fighter minis, is it possible to play basic X-Wing with any resources available online? Where are these resources? Or do you need to have at least one of the Starter sets to play?

Vincent Solfronk Inactive Member11 Jan 2017 12:24 p.m. PST

You can purchase the basic game pretty cheap. Also go by your local hobby shop. I am certain there are players who would lend you what you need to start.

I play Armada and not X-wing, which is a different game.

Personal logo herkybird Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2017 12:38 p.m. PST

X-Wing is an integrated system, with special rulers and turning arcs. Each mini has a special base card with the stats on, and there is a manoeuvre dial to choose which manoeuvre to use next turn, as well as myriad counters!- and special attack/defend dice, Damage deck etc..


I think if you replicated Wings of Glory, instead, you could get a good game with your minis, just work out the stats you want.

Toaster11 Jan 2017 12:56 p.m. PST

If you want a free game for your Starfighter minis I recommend Tacship by Jon Tuffley
Nice quick and simple and doesn't require a million cards cluttering the table.
If you want my personal take on the stats for the starwars ships using it they are here link

Happy gaming

Syr Otto Inactive Member11 Jan 2017 1:01 p.m. PST

You can find most of the cards on-line, at least I was able to for the first 5-6 waves. The rules are online as a free PDF ( PDF link ).
The only thing you're missing would be the turning arcs, damage/critical hit cards and the tokens.
This makes it fairly easy to get started.

TheBeast Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2017 1:40 p.m. PST

Toaster, big thanks!

Can you get Wings of Glory rules online? I know they had Seas of up forever.

I know it's designed for large ships and fighters are squadrons, but you could do worse than use Full Thrust as your fighter game, as well.


ordinarybass Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2017 1:58 p.m. PST

Also, the core game frequently goes on sale for really cheap. It got down to 10 or 12 bucks at Target last year and right now it's on amazon for only $23 USD bucks.

That would get you all the arcs and markers and special dice and such as well as the ruelbook. If you can make your own stands and find the necesary cards online I think you'd be pretty well set.

trynda170111 Jan 2017 2:04 p.m. PST


Funnily enough, I tried using Full Thrust many years ago, trying to transcribe stats from the West End Star Wars RPG books to garner relative stats and convert into Full Thrust terms. Which of course only had the original trilogy ships in them.


Had a good read at your previous TMP posts and SCN posts on X-Wing, very interesting reading. And your determination to scratch build the minis, amazing stuff Sir!

I did have access to TacShip (even have an original copy of Ragnarok that it came in, in fact have all the Ragnaroks up to No.59), do you by any chance have more stats to share (E-Wings etc)? You have me intrigued!


Personal logo herkybird Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2017 2:41 p.m. PST

Can you get Wings of Glory rules online? I know they had Seas of up forever.

MacrossMartin Inactive Member11 Jan 2017 4:43 p.m. PST

Back in the days when there was an official Star Wars gaming magazine, there were a couple of articles porting Silent Death into the Star Wars setting. They're not bad. Silent Death is a very neat game, without all the 'super-combo' madness that plagues X-Wing.

Boardgamegeek page:


If you can't find the PDF's give me a shout.

- Martin

Mako1111 Jan 2017 5:17 p.m. PST

I suspect the Silent Death version is one of the better ones out there.

SBminisguy11 Jan 2017 5:51 p.m. PST

5150: Fighter Command and the Carrier Command supplement are lots of fun, good dogfighting rules that allow you to run multiple squadrons and capital ships, plus a campaign system.


trynda170111 Jan 2017 6:51 p.m. PST


I see I missed seeing in your stats on SCN, that you have the E-wing listed, but still wonder if you've got any more stats since your original playtesting back in October 2012? Slave 1, the Falcon, any others you may have come up with from the prequels?

TheBeast Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2017 7:57 p.m. PST

@herky Thanks!

@Mako While I'm not a big SD fan, the rules I saw looked solid enough, but I don't think they did anything past the one article.

@Trynda Now, don't get greedy… ;->=

Have you received a Ragnarok in recent memory? I haven't, but then again, no one's been pestering me for dues.


Edit: Sad thing is, I order every so often from Tony and others, but keep forgetting the discounts.

Personal logo Inari7 Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2017 11:29 p.m. PST

Don't forget X-Wing is really a WWII fighter game played in 2D. You could get a set of rules like Air War C21 and transpose the modern fighter names with Star Wars Star fighter names. An F-16 could be a TIE fighter ect…

Mike Target12 Jan 2017 7:19 a.m. PST

It shouldn't be too hard to put together an Xwing game with all the templates cards and tokens etc that you need without buying much from FFG and using just Micromachine models.

If you go to the Xwing miniatures game wikia all of the ship cards, rules, pilot/crew/equipment cards etc are there for the taking. You just need to copy them down! Or print them off if your budget stretches to printer ink!

The manouver dials can be done too- all the manouvers available are listed for each ship- cut out some card discs (one with a little window or notch so the chosen manouver is visible) stick them together with one of those split pin fastening thingies and bobs your uncle!

The only think i think youd need to buy would be the movement templates and the dice, and both can be bought on ebay for a few pounds.
You could either buy the ready to use stands, or make your own easily enough (you might want an off the shelf one to provide a guide for home made ones), and you can make all the relevent counters easily enough.

I reckon just for the basics you wouldn't need to spend more than £10.00 GBP on ebay, and just add micromachine ships, then cardboard, a pen and scissors will get you everything else you need!

Toaster12 Jan 2017 1:23 p.m. PST

@ Trynda,
Sorry haven't done anything more with it, I have picked up 5150 Fighter Command and find it gives a great solo game but playing head to head seems to keep throwing up questions as to what the author really means.


David Manley13 Jan 2017 11:06 a.m. PST

Inari7, there is actually a sci fi version of C21 in the Wessex Games publication pipeline. It's been there many, many years but it's coming…. :)

trynda170115 Jan 2017 7:35 p.m. PST


The last Ragnarok I received was Issue 59, but the latest is no.60 according to the sfsfw dot org page. I know there was talk last year of delivery problems, and I can't remember if I'm due issue 60. I will have to refer to the membership list on the Yahoo Group to check that.

TheBeast Supporting Member of TMP16 Jan 2017 10:46 a.m. PST



trynda170116 Jan 2017 2:34 p.m. PST

Memory says I might be due up to Issue 62 of Ragnarok, but I'm only on my phone and can't get into Yahoo Groups to check on it.

BlackWidowPilot Fezian Inactive Member16 Jan 2017 9:41 p.m. PST

The Silent Death core rulebook is available as a PDF along with all of the assorted supplements in the same format from Metal Express.

As MacrossMartin explained, a now classic article cut by Erik Dewey many a yaern ago ports the SD system and the Star Wars fighters. Any ships the article didn't cover would prove easy enough to integrate as the Silent Death core rulebook includes a ship design system covering everything from small one person light fighters to heavy gunboats, plus a generic scout and freighter.

Hope this helps!

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express

trynda170119 Jan 2017 5:41 p.m. PST

I found the original Star Wars Gamer article online with the core ships. Did the other two articles have other ships represented, or where they just new rule thoughts for Silent Death adding on from the original article?

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