Gratian | 09 Jan 2017 7:12 a.m. PST |
Nationalities? Poses? Parade v campaign dress? Napoleonic ranges seem pretty comprehensive now but wondering if any slight omissions are niggling anyone here? |
Artilleryman | 09 Jan 2017 7:26 a.m. PST |
Mounted horse artillerymen and marching foot artillerymen in 28mm. Foundry did the former for France and the UK and Calpe did the latter for Prussia. But the Foundry figures come in a mixed set and the Calpes are only for 1813-15. The figures need to be more 'relaxed' than their cavalry and infantry equivalents as though they are trudging after their guns. Just a hope… |
deadhead | 09 Jan 2017 7:45 a.m. PST |
I'll second that. You can get the artillery train and the drivers for almost any country of the Napoleonic era. But try to find the gunners doing anything other than serving or aiming their gun. Standing horses, of reasonable size and proportions, not the careering, galloping, mad charge ones that are universal. Perry Chasseurs' horses for French light cavalry and Cuirassiers' for French Heavy and British Light Dragoons' are honourable exceptions I admit (but I have so many unused cavalrymen now, just to get multiples of three standing horses………. |
olicana | 09 Jan 2017 7:59 a.m. PST |
Artillerymen are something underdone in most genres. A few 'sets' out there are doing more than stood about holding a rammer or a bucket, but very few. I've always seen artillery as the ideal on table vignette. They cost quite a lot compared to other units (unit for unit) and I'd like to see a little more imagination in gun crew design, in all periods, full stop |
Martin Rapier | 09 Jan 2017 8:31 a.m. PST |
There is a real shortage of French Imperial Guard figures:) More seriously, just to agree with what the other have said so far – more in the way of 'logistics' type figures – relaxed gunners, pioneers digging holes, blokes carrying boxes… |
Mick the Metalsmith | 09 Jan 2017 8:51 a.m. PST |
militia and guerillas in 15 and 28 |
boy wundyr x | 09 Jan 2017 9:13 a.m. PST |
In 15mm, those late-war Imperial Guard scouts Napoleon had, which IIRC, had a couple types of uniforms, one of which you can kinda fudge but the other is too unique. Of course if I've just missed them, please let me know! This is for skirmish gaming, so they'll show up on the table more than than if I needed them for big battles. @Mick – Minifigs has some 15mm Spanish and Russian guerillas, I think militia too for some nations. |
4th Cuirassier | 09 Jan 2017 9:22 a.m. PST |
You can get the artillery train and the drivers for almost any country of the Napoleonic era. But try to find the gunners doing anything other than serving or aiming their gun. I wish I could find Austrian and French artillery limbers, riders and marching crew for 1805 in 28mm. There seems to be a dearth of accurate 1805 Austrian line infantry, too. Most have the short-tailed 1809 coat. Those one can find with the longer-tailed coat have the Belgic shako. In 1805 they in fact had long tails and crested helmets. In 1/72 plastic there are no decent French or Prussian dragoons. |
idontbelieveit | 09 Jan 2017 9:30 a.m. PST |
I've not been paying a lot of attention to Napoleonics for awhile. Here are some things missing last time I was looking. If the gaps have been filled (I do 28mm) I would love to know. All of these are for 1813: Baden French young and middle guard not in full dress Westphalian light infantry |
deadhead | 09 Jan 2017 10:05 a.m. PST |
To boy wundyr X; 2e Eclaireurs de la Garde Imperiale…attached to the Dragoons of the Guard and a unique uniform….even if I find the conical shako hard to believe, as being truly contemporary. My attempts to create them in 28mm. I could not resist the shabraque, on front rank, even if wrong
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dwight shrute | 09 Jan 2017 10:18 a.m. PST |
@4th Cuirassier , are not the Italeri 1/72 French Dragoons some of the best figures ever made ? |
Timmo uk | 09 Jan 2017 10:19 a.m. PST |
I collect AB Napoleonics. I've mentioned these before and I think I'm correct in writing that TB has confirmed that the Portuguese are on the 'to do one day' list. Portuguese Line flank co skirmishing Artillery crews Dragoons Staff officers Spanish Irregular lancers Guerrillas German Division in Spain I'm not sure of all the Confederation of the Rhine and other Germanic uniforms required for these units but am fairly certain that there's a uniform with a side plumed shako as an example. Ottomans If TB expanded the range that would be fabulous. |
Jozis Tin Man | 09 Jan 2017 10:44 a.m. PST |
From Baccus, 6mm mounted crossbowmen for the 15th century and 6mm AWi highlanders in trousers instead of kilts. Really, that is it! We are in a golden age of figures truly, if that is all I am wanting. |
Artilleryman | 09 Jan 2017 10:50 a.m. PST |
Thinking about it I would also like to see more 'camp followers'. French cantinieres, British 'soldiers' women', local peasants and farmers etc, etc. With 6 wives per company in a British battalion that's 60 wives excluding families and unofficial females which means at least 3 figures at 1:20; think about that! |
HP2Sport | 09 Jan 2017 10:56 a.m. PST |
Napoleonic regimental band figures. In dress and parade uniform. In larger 28mm. |
Lambert | 09 Jan 2017 11:09 a.m. PST |
Another vote for mounted horse gunners, marching artillerymen, horses standing still and cavalry not waving swords in the air. |
wrgmr1 | 09 Jan 2017 11:20 a.m. PST |
Calpe is missing Prussian cuirassiers. I had to use Foundry. |
matthewgreen | 09 Jan 2017 11:28 a.m. PST |
In 15/18mm I have found French artillery models a disappointment for the most part. Worst are 4pdrs and howitzers (especially the An XI 24pdr which was the most widely used). It seems that most manufacturers did their French ranges when the state of research was pretty poor. The later 28mm ranges are much better served. I would like somebody to do Tirailleurs Corse, as these are beyond my modelling skills to convert. More variations within Prussian Reserve regiments and landwehr would be good too – especially landwehr with taller caps as shown in contemporary prints. |
willthepiper | 09 Jan 2017 11:51 a.m. PST |
Deadhead asked for:
Standing horses, of reasonable size and proportions, Front Rank sells horses individually: link |
forwardmarchstudios | 09 Jan 2017 12:06 p.m. PST |
Nice thing about 3mm is that it doesn't really matter…. that said I would love to have some Austrian grenadiers (Marcin, if you're reading this…😀) |
Desert Fox | 09 Jan 2017 12:34 p.m. PST |
3mm Napoleonics The only things keeping me from diving into 3mm Napoeloncs and earlier… 1. Grenadiers in mitre--foot and horse 2. tricorne-horse, foot, and arty crews 3. large arty pieces--currently the largest is 12 pdr 4. skirmishers casted 2 to a base, not the current 4. (4 still seems too crowded for skirmishers). Or casted as obviously two pairs of two skirmishers on a wider base. |
deadhead | 09 Jan 2017 12:53 p.m. PST |
willthepiper, Thanks indeed. I have a few of them, but find them curiously tiny, compared to the tubby characters (however good the castings) riding them. Most also come with out any saddlery, expecting it to come with their own riders of course. Their Heavy cavalry horses I think would just about do for Perry-sized light cavalry. The Light Cavalry horses are small ponies. I honestly think Front Rank horses are nearer to My Little Pony proportions than cavalry steeds. (accepting that by 1813 French cavalry would put up with anything!) |
forwardmarchstudios | 09 Jan 2017 1:09 p.m. PST |
Desert Fox- you can snip the skirmishers- that's what I do. I base all of mine individually. I agree on the tricornes- it would be so easy to do an entire tricorne-era range, I don't know why someone hasn't done it yet. You only need a dozen sculpts and the period is basically covered. It would be very easy to do 1:1 tricorne armies for under $1 USDk…. I wish someone would. On arty… maybe you could use 6mm 6 pounders :) |
Duc de Brouilly | 09 Jan 2017 1:18 p.m. PST |
(I'm talking 25/28 mm Napoleonic here). Surprisingly few ranges do a French line sapper for your tete de colonne. And as far as I know, no one does Berg lancers. Conversion is possible but the elite company in colpacks and the chasseur style uniforms worn in Spain are trickier. I'm hoping Gringos might consider doing some: seems like the sort of thing they'd do. However, the figure I'm really looking for is of a French dragoon with the butt of his carbine resting on his thigh. It's an obvious pose for a dragoon you would have thought and would be nice as part of a command group. Blowed if I can find one though! So if anyone knows of such a figure …
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boy wundyr x | 09 Jan 2017 1:39 p.m. PST |
@deadhead – Beautiful stuff, thanks for sharing! Would love those guys for 15mm. @DesertFox & Fowardmarch – I suspect you guys may know this, but Magister Militum does 3mm ECW to tricorne era figures. I'm not sure they'd work with O8 stuff (certainly not on the same base), but if all you wanted to do was say 1640s-SYW, you'd be able to get a good start with MM. Unfortunately the AWI is a grey area and you would have to mix, and I haven't gotten a sense if they're going to try to fill in the range, or if they'll either work forwards to the AWI or O8 will work backwards to it. |
plutarch 64 | 09 Jan 2017 2:13 p.m. PST |
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patrick766 | 09 Jan 2017 2:42 p.m. PST |
boy wundyr X Mex/Am war Mexican line cavalry lancers work well for the 2nd Eclaireurs…. Patrick |
willthepiper | 09 Jan 2017 2:56 p.m. PST |
Cheers, Deadhead. I noticed that you mentioned 'reasonable size and proportions', which is going to mean different things to different people. The only other thing I'd suggest is contacting miniatures makers directly to see if they'd sell you horses separately. No harm in asking! |
forwardmarchstudios | 09 Jan 2017 3:20 p.m. PST |
Boy wundr x- the problem with MM is the price. At the current price point you'd be as well off going with 6mm. Marcins 3mm stuff hits a sweet spot between figs, frontage and price. |
4th Cuirassier | 09 Jan 2017 3:26 p.m. PST |
@ dwight shrute They're lovely, but they're not 1/72. More like 1/65 and thus incompatible with anything else. If Italeri made cuirassiers as proportionately huge I'd happily buy both and live with it. Unfortunately they are just gigantic – a problem that affects all Italeri figures. The riflemen are fab too and those I can live with as they are rarely seen physically alongside another troop type. |
boy wundyr x | 09 Jan 2017 4:41 p.m. PST |
Ah, thanks Patrick, off to hunt some up! |
14Bore | 09 Jan 2017 5:22 p.m. PST |
Someday will finish the combat troops and will want more wagons and teamsters, other camp figures. |
Gratian | 10 Jan 2017 3:41 a.m. PST |
Seems like we're pretty spoilt! Personally, I would like to see more French fusilier companies skirmishing in greatcoats (AB 15mm). It may be niche but it's a minor niggle I have. I'm currently removing epaulettes from a batch a bought last year! |
Dr Jeckyll | 10 Jan 2017 4:30 a.m. PST |
boywundrx: heres my interpretation of the 3 regiments of Eclaireurs in 15/18mm (bad photo, sorry). I used ABs Duchy of Warsaw line lancers for the 1st reg. and French Hussars for the 3rd regiment, and Mexican Line Lancers from Eurekas 18mm Mexican-American War line for the 2nd Eclaireurs.
bilde-111 by Erik Salvador, on Flickr To the OP: I would like to see more CoR troops, like Hessian Chevauxlegers, Anhalt, Lippe infantry, Westphalian Guard carabiniers/chasseurs, Italian Guards of Honor, in short more for the Grande Armee of 1812 in Russia. Also, please, some cavalry in cloacks and some dismounted light cavalry…
Cheers! Dr J |
deadhead | 10 Jan 2017 5:01 a.m. PST |
The 2e Eclaireurs in 18mm are simply brilliant. My 28mm were a similar conversion. based on Perry Line Chasseurs command and their Carlist War troopers for the conical hat….some with shako rouleau from Perry Hussars,many on ACW horses as they did use very simple horse furniture. I think the 18mm figures are more convincing. My photo did something very strange to the shade of green! Yes, cavalry in cloaks with detachable heads |
Durban Gamer | 10 Jan 2017 5:15 a.m. PST |
I'd like to see Peter Pig do AWI British infantry for the Burgoyne campaign, as well as British and French sepoys for India during the AWI. I'd like to see Pendraken do more poses and types for East Africa WW1 in 10mm. Especially dismounted cavalry on the Empire side. |
CATenWolde | 10 Jan 2017 5:35 a.m. PST |
I've been complaining about this for over a decade … but there is a frustrating lack of early period (1794-1800) figures in 10mm, and in 6mm. Lancer is now making a 10mm line for the Glory Years, and Adler has a beautiful 6mm French Rev / Glory Years French line, but no proper Austrian (or Prussian or Russian) opponents are seeing the light of day. To be honest, I've probably given up on ever seeing them. :( |
boy wundyr x | 10 Jan 2017 8:36 a.m. PST |
Thanks Dr. Jeckyll, that's awesome – this is turning into the best thread ever for me :-) |
138SquadronRAF | 10 Jan 2017 9:09 a.m. PST |
I've been complaining about this for over a decade … but there is a frustrating lack of early period (1794-1800) figures in 10mm, and in 6mm. Lancer is now making a 10mm line for the Glory Years, and Adler has a beautiful 6mm French Rev / Glory Years French line, but no proper Austrian (or Prussian or Russian) opponents are seeing the light of day. This is very true. I do note that Pendraken do now have a range of Early Austrians. Russians you can use 7YW figures because of the Emperor Paul's "Reforms" that took the army back to that of Federick the Adequate. The one good thing about 10mm it does allow you a degree of latitude. |
CaptainSi | 10 Jan 2017 11:20 a.m. PST |
Part of my AB wishlist: French Portuguese Legion, French chasseurs in kinski, Late war French dragoons East Prussian National Cavalry Elite Company Polish and French lancers, Wurttemberg grenadiers, Wurttemberg infantry/artillery in shako and overalls Saxon Guard Grenadiers (1809), Westphalian/Bavarian cuirassiers, Saxon,Bavarian,Wurttemberg limbers & caissons, Cavalry in cloaks, Italian garde d'Honneur, German minor states, 1806-09 & 1812, Bavarian national guard, More staff, especially French dragoon generals, Lithuanian tartars |
deadhead | 10 Jan 2017 11:25 a.m. PST |
Any sitting figures I have requested before…in any scale… Just do the figures in a sitting pose, with anything to sit on as separate Generals and officers would be ideal; if left relatively simple, then easily converted to many nations. Huge range of uses. almost non-existent….even worse than cavalry dismounted. Instead we get so many releases of heroic poses, frantically waving their swords around. Nothing wrong with that, but some variety please. Years since Perry did any cavalry other than charging (I might accept French at least from The Retreat as some exception) |
Ravenfeeder | 10 Jan 2017 11:50 a.m. PST |
I don't think anyone does a full range of Danish Napoleonics in 28mm, although it's been a while since I looked. |
matthewgreen | 10 Jan 2017 12:33 p.m. PST |
Good point deadhead. I would like to represent a static HQ with dismounted and seated staff figures. |
Marc the plastics fan | 10 Jan 2017 1:42 p.m. PST |
4th. Do you really mean the old Italeri set of dragoons? The new chasseurs are big, yes, but the dragoons seem perfect to me The newer Prussian dragoons are rubbish though |
deadhead | 10 Jan 2017 3:03 p.m. PST |
Good news for Ravenfeeder; Perrys do Danes but no gunners or cavalry (yet anyway); link
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