| Tango01 | 06 Jan 2017 10:12 p.m. PST |
… in eastern Europe. "Hundreds of U.S. tanks, trucks and other military equipment arrived by ship in Germany on Friday to be transported by rail and road to eastern Europe as part of a NATO buildup that has drawn Russia's ire. Two shiploads arrived in the northern port of Bremerhaven and a third was due in a few days, bringing the fleets of tracked and wheeled vehicles for use by around 4,000 U.S. troops being deployed for exercises in NATO states near Russia. U.S. and Polish forces will participate in a large "massing" exercise in Poland at the end of January as part of a series of measures aimed at reassuring U.S. allies in Europe after Russia's 2014 annexation of the Crimea region of Ukraine…."
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 Legion 4   | 07 Jan 2017 9:56 a.m. PST |
Sounds like a very good training opportunity … |
| Tango01 | 07 Jan 2017 10:52 a.m. PST |
Dude… (smile)
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| Lion in the Stars | 07 Jan 2017 1:41 p.m. PST |
As long as no-one starts shooting at each other. |
 Murphy  | 07 Jan 2017 8:23 p.m. PST |
So is this being considered a REFORGER?…. |
| Tango01 | 07 Jan 2017 10:36 p.m. PST |
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| Legion 4 | 08 Jan 2017 10:40 a.m. PST |
I'd think so, REFORGER 2.0 … with a little "force"/OOB reorganization. Like the Poles are now on the NATO side … |
| paulgenna | 08 Jan 2017 5:28 p.m. PST |
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| Deadles | 08 Jan 2017 5:53 p.m. PST |
4,000 troops. OMG that's like nearly a whole brigade! Given Russian snap exercises involve a 100,000+ troops, NATO ones seem quite pitiful in comparison. |
| Charlie 12 | 08 Jan 2017 8:42 p.m. PST |
Assuming the Russians could pull that number together. Given their current economic morass, I'd seriously doubt they could pull up a tenth of that number without gutting their budget. |
| Deadles | 08 Jan 2017 9:40 p.m. PST |
The Russians have been doing these exercises despite their economic situations. Kavkaz 2016 saw 120,000 troops participate in exercises in the south in September 2016.
Russian military expenditure continues to grow despite the economic woes.
Like all dictatorships, Russia prioritises state power over economic well being of their citizens. But you can continue underestimating them. West needs to learn to appreciate the strength of our potential enemies so as to learn and prepare how to defeat them should the need arise. |
| Mako11 | 09 Jan 2017 12:45 a.m. PST |
New name. "Atlantic Resolve"(?), or something like that. Why are they offloading in West Germany? Seems a bit far from "the front", and given various breakdown rates I've read about by tanks, I certainly hope they will be moved by rail. Of course, that makes them vulnerable to Spetsnaz teams along the way. Yep, as mentioned, the Russians have been running very large, snap exercises, all over their territory for the last few years, in order to keep NATO and others off-balance, and no doubt lay the groundwork for an eventual real attack, labeled as an "exercise", should they wish to conduct another one. |
| Umpapa | 09 Jan 2017 11:20 a.m. PST |
Yep 14 km total trains. link It is also an logistical exercise – during war Baltics would be blockaded. Last but not least it is a show of power, also to Germany (I've neard rumours that Germany had been making logistic problems in the past to inhibit USArmy moving to Poland during Anakonda 2016). |
| 15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 09 Jan 2017 12:33 p.m. PST |
Better make it count since this may likely be the last "large scale" exercise aimed at allaying our Nato allies' fears in the next four years. All indication points toward a thaw (if not outright improvement) in US-Russia relations. OTOH Sino-American relations may deteriorate. |
| Legion 4 | 09 Jan 2017 4:01 p.m. PST |
How about REFORGER .25
Yeah … no one in NATO could really afford 2.0 … And neither can the Russian OPFOR. |
