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Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP27 Dec 2016 10:09 a.m. PST

Are the only source of income for the owners.

I assume companies like Warlord, Perry and Games workshop.

But what about others?

Say Front Rank, they seem to have a decent turnaround. They are big enough that they remove VAT when ordering outside of the UK. But are they big enough that the owners only have that as a source of income?

What about the people down under Eureka? etc etc.

Lovejoy27 Dec 2016 10:57 a.m. PST

Me and my wife Jo run Oathsworn Miniatures; that's our only source of income. I wouldn't call us big, though!

Ed the Two Hour Wargames guy27 Dec 2016 11:15 a.m. PST

Me and my wife Jo run Oathsworn Miniatures; that's our only source of income. I wouldn't call us big, though!

And a fine set of miniatures as well!

dampfpanzerwagon Fezian27 Dec 2016 12:28 p.m. PST

Me and my wife Jo run Oathsworn Miniatures; that's our only source of income. I wouldn't call us big, though!
And a fine set of miniatures as well!

I agree – a fine set that I WILL get around to painting one day.

Tony

ordinarybass27 Dec 2016 12:57 p.m. PST

I wonder if EM4 is a full-time gig for Doug? Of course there's also his game supply company and Moonraker, but they're all game entities.

Prince August probably is also.

shaun from s and s models27 Dec 2016 1:09 p.m. PST

i only earn as s&s models, been like it for 5 years in march

GarrisonMiniatures27 Dec 2016 1:41 p.m. PST

I would assume EM4 is full time – Doug used to own a model shop in Liverpool in the 70s so I assumer it's a continuation of that.

Garrison was never full time. I took it on in the first place to safeguard my own supplies and every penny was then recycled back to make new moulds, etc.

Rudysnelson27 Dec 2016 5:50 p.m. PST

Sole in me source is rare. Besides the love of miniatures most companies were started as a tax shelter. It is easier to name companies whose owner has a normal job.
19th Century/Battlehonors is one that I am pretty sure is a sole nco me.
Many have periods of sole income before returning to a combo position.

IUsedToBeSomeone28 Dec 2016 2:44 a.m. PST

Black hat is my only source of income and has been for over 5 years…

Mike

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP28 Dec 2016 3:22 a.m. PST

Ïntresting info, seems like I overestimated the needed size for a miniature company to be self-sufficient.

Lovejoy28 Dec 2016 11:13 a.m. PST

And a fine set of miniatures as well!

I agree – a fine set that I WILL get around to painting one day.

Why, thank you, Ed and Tony! :)

Ïntresting info, seems like I overestimated the needed size for a miniature company to be self-sufficient.

The big costs for a minis business are sculpting, and moulding/casting.
If you do one (or both!) of those yourself, that makes a huge difference.

IUsedToBeSomeone29 Dec 2016 2:55 a.m. PST

To be fair, I have no mortgage and no kids to put through University so my wife and I don't need to earn a lot of money now…

Mike

Griefbringer29 Dec 2016 9:53 a.m. PST

I assume companies like Warlord, Perry and Games workshop.

Regarding Games Workshop, that has been a PLC since 90's or so, meaning that the ownership is spread amongst quite a number of shareholders, who do not participate in the day-to-day running of the company. I would think that most of the shareholders have also other sources of income.

However, for many of the employees the GW salary might be their only source of income.

Rogzombie Fezian29 Dec 2016 10:09 p.m. PST

Privateer Press must be making money but a lot like GW.
CMON minis is becoming a new profitable player with all their million dollar kickstarters. I would think Zombicide has really been a great seller for them. They also own Dark Ages and probably other stuff.

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