| 15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 23 Dec 2016 2:53 p.m. PST |
There seems to be an announcement of a new nuclear arms race: link And the response seems to be positive: link ps: I called it Cold War 3 because CW1 was between 1946 and 1979, CW2 was between 1980 and 1991 (after a decade of détente between 1969 and 1980 after the Soviets invaded Afghanistan during Reagan's first term). |
| Mako11 | 23 Dec 2016 2:56 p.m. PST |
Has been for quite some time, though few are taking notice. Upgrading nukes is just the latest strategy in the plan. I call it CW2, since the first one ended in 1989/1991. |
| Weasel | 23 Dec 2016 4:05 p.m. PST |
Arms production is a way to have Keynesian spending, without either party complaining, so it's a convenient escape valve we can pour money into, to heat up the economy. Since Russia appears to be quite isolated globally, I don't think things will get quite as tense.
There's no ideological underpinning this time around. |
| JMcCarroll | 23 Dec 2016 4:29 p.m. PST |
Forget Russia, China is the one to watch. |
| Mako11 | 23 Dec 2016 5:22 p.m. PST |
Yea, sure there's not, Weasel. Putin is old skool………… As silly as some saying the Chinese are not communists, when they communist party there still runs things, even though they've embraced capitalism to make money. |
| Weasel | 23 Dec 2016 6:06 p.m. PST |
Putin's ideology is himself ;) |
| Tgunner | 23 Dec 2016 10:37 p.m. PST |
I would also point out that our (US) nuclear arsenal is getting really old. Many of these weapons were introduced in the '70s and '80s. That's pretty long on the tooth. Putin or not, the US needed to up-date its nuclear arsenal. We probably don't need thousands upon thousands though… just enough to do the job on an offending nation with some to spare. |
| Mako11 | 24 Dec 2016 12:05 a.m. PST |
Yep, and many were very questionable back then. Heard on the news that there's hardly anyone left who knows how to do a nuke test, or has done one before. Hope they wrote stuff down in a notebook somewhere. I think we definitely need some of those mobile, land-based missile launchers. Seems everyone has some of those, including even the poor NorKs. Egad, we have a Mobile Missile Nuke Launcher Gap!!! |
| MHoxie | 24 Dec 2016 3:03 a.m. PST |
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| cosmicbank | 24 Dec 2016 9:17 a.m. PST |
I don't think will sell. The rules are unplayable abd the figures cost too much. |
 piper909  | 24 Dec 2016 11:28 p.m. PST |
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 Legion 4  | 30 Dec 2016 8:58 a.m. PST |
Well look at WWI and WWII. There was about 25 year or so "gap" between the two. This maybe what we see here. Cold War 2.0. If you have been watching the news feeds lately … it certainly may look that way. |
| Stepman3 | 31 Dec 2016 8:29 a.m. PST |
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| Charlie 12 | 02 Jan 2017 7:51 p.m. PST |
I think we definitely need some of those mobile, land-based missile launchers. Already got mobile missile launchers, they're called subs, surface ships and aircraft… As for COLD WAR III…. Did the US and Russians stop targeting each each other with their nukes? No? Then the Cold War never ended…. |
| Noble713 | 02 Jan 2017 11:58 p.m. PST |
Since Russia appears to be quite isolated globally Really? The same Russia that is playing key roles in the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank ( link ) and New Development Bank ( link ). Building investment relationships with ~3 billion people doesn't seem very isolated. ( link ) Also note that Russia managed to broker a Syrian ceasefire, with Turkish assistance…and snubbed the US in the process. Looks like their diplomatic soft power is functioning well for an "isolated" country too. ( link ) ZH has a decent summary:
How A United Iran, Russia, and China Are Changing the World ( link )
Hope they wrote stuff down in a notebook somewhere. I was in a bar in Northern VA in late 2010 and met a young guy who claimed he had interned at Los Alamos. He said it was a total mess there, because all these aging nuclear physicists kept terrible or non-existent notes. Everything was in their head, they were dying/retiring, and weren't passing along enough critical information to anyone else. I've since read articles suggesting the same. In particular, whatever sort of foam is used to surround the core in a nuke warhead is made of some highly toxic, sensitive stuff….and we've forgotten how to make it. |
| Legion 4 | 03 Jan 2017 8:09 a.m. PST |
That is troubling news Noble about Los Alamos if true ?  |
| Gwydion | 03 Jan 2017 8:41 a.m. PST |
Did the US and Russians stop targeting each each other with their nukes? No? Then the Cold War never ended…. Well… Yes. Thoeretically at any rate. Bill Clinton and Boris Yeltsin were supposed to have negotiated that back in '94. Of course Boris was a tad drunk most of the time and claimed to have promised 'detargeting' on at least two separate occasions – which kind of asks the question which one was genuine? (if any). |
| Noble713 | 04 Jan 2017 7:04 a.m. PST |
That is troubling news Noble about Los Alamos if true ? Seems the problem with the foam at least was overcome:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOGBANK But it still demonstrates that we are hemorrhaging institutional knowledge on nuclear weapons and manufacturing. |
| Legion 4 | 04 Jan 2017 8:34 a.m. PST |
Good to know … Thanks ! But yes, sounds like we may be losing too many that know how to do the important stuff, etc., … Even if we don't need nucs to compete with the Russians, Chinese, Iranians(!?!), etc. We still may need some for an unknown event sometime in the future …
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