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Deserter21 Dec 2016 1:03 a.m. PST

I have some 1/144 tanks and would like to add infantry, AT guns etc… I intend to play with rules where 1 base = 1 squad (like Crossfire)
What is the most common base size used for 10mm WW2 figures?

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Dec 2016 7:34 a.m. PST

I don't think there's a "most common" for 10mm. In 15mm the Flames of War basing is very common, in 6mm teams on pennies is also very popular.

Weasel21 Dec 2016 8:26 a.m. PST

It's not a big enough scale (pun intended) to really have standardized basing.

I used some of the larger round GW bases in 15mm and they felt great, though they were a touch big for a trio of 15mm guys.

In 10mm, I'd look at stuffing 5 or so guys o neach squad, since you won't need that many bases for Crossfire.

doctorphalanx21 Dec 2016 9:04 a.m. PST

You mentioned Crossfire – a great game which you might wish to play at some point. If so I'd use 30mm square bases especially for the HMGs where a square is useful for judging arcs. AFVs will need to go on deeper bases.

All my 10mm and 15mm 20thC infantry is or will be on bases of this size, either for playing Crossfire, SquareBashing, Red Actions or AK-47.

DColtman21 Dec 2016 9:44 a.m. PST

You may not find a common base size for this scale since it isn't associated with a widespread basing convention such as those that come from FOW or WRG.

I put mine on 20mm x 40mm but in hindsight regret it because it appears too linear. If I did it again I'd likely go with 25 or 30mm square or maybe FOW bases.

Dan 05521 Dec 2016 12:56 p.m. PST

I use 25mm square bases, but I only put 4 or 5 figures on them.

Lion in the Stars21 Dec 2016 1:23 p.m. PST

I honestly like the Flames of War base sizes, but I think doctorphalanx has a point about the 30mm square bases.

That's generally the same size you'd use for the various Peter Pig games, and those are pretty cool, too.

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2016 1:47 p.m. PST

I go with the base sizes in Blitzkrieg Commander. Also helps with unit function and Litko makes all the bases mentioned.

50mm squared for all COs
40mm squared for all HQs
50mm X 25mm for Infantry
30mm X 50mm for Tanks
25mm X 50mm for vehicles (yes same size as for infantry just oriented differently)
40mm squared for AT and AA guns
40mm X 50mm for Artillery

Mako1121 Dec 2016 2:27 p.m. PST

2/3rds the size of 1/100th, or so.

surdu200521 Dec 2016 3:28 p.m. PST

I use 3 inches wide by 1.5 inches deep.

Martin Rapier22 Dec 2016 12:47 a.m. PST

Most of my 6mm and 15mm stuff is on 30x30, so I'm sure it would work for 10mm too.

I prefer regular shaped bases as they are easier to store.

Last Hussar22 Dec 2016 11:59 a.m. PST

I put 3-4 on a 30mm square base, or individually on pennies.

farnox22 Dec 2016 1:37 p.m. PST

I play with Mein Panzer rules, using 3/4" square bases for a squad in 10-12mm scale. 4-5 figures to a stand.

Sandinista22 Dec 2016 5:38 p.m. PST

I put 3 figures on a 30x20mm base, I use 30x30mm for heavy weapons. I play Blitzkrieg Commander

Cheers
Ian

Mark 1 Supporting Member of TMP22 Dec 2016 6:56 p.m. PST

No one has any pics? How is it that no one has any pics?

C'mon, guys. This OP is virtually begging for some nice juicy images of your 10mm figures…

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

Just Jack Supporting Member of TMP22 Dec 2016 8:49 p.m. PST

Here you go. These are on bathroom tiles from Home Depot, 2" x 1" (50mm x 25mm).

picture

Minifigs French Foreign Legion.

picture

Pendraken WWII British Airborne.

picture

Minifigs WWII US Marines.

picture

Pendraken Afrika Korps 88mm ATG.

picture

Pendraken Falklands Brits.

picture

Pendraken Vietnam-era Americans.

picture

Minifigs Modern Russian SOF.

Hope that helps.

V/R,
Jack

Mako1122 Dec 2016 11:55 p.m. PST

I like those, Jack, and was just thinking 2" x 1" seems about right for fire teams, and/or squads.

Still on the fence about doing 1:1 figs to real troops, or going with the 1:2 ratio, but suspect they can serve double duty, as required, and troops and the military defense funds permit.

Deserter23 Dec 2016 9:25 a.m. PST

Thank you all! I think I will go for 30x30 mm square

Last Hussar23 Dec 2016 10:44 a.m. PST

What I did was base a section or equivalent on three bases at 1 to 1, so Bren, loader and L/Cpl on one base, 3 rifles on 2nd, and 3 rifles and Cpl on the third, so you can either play it as three bases or a section on 1 to 1.

christot23 Dec 2016 11:19 a.m. PST

sort of what i do too… 3 bases of 3 with 1 bren and 1 smg in there somewhere…could be 1 to 1 or 3 section bases or 3 platoon bases whatever

Mark 1 Supporting Member of TMP23 Dec 2016 2:50 p.m. PST

I game at 6mm, so a different scale, and the size of my bases probably won't work for 10mm figures. But I too generally game with 1-to-squad unit scales, so perhaps the approach I take will be of some interest. I have settled on a single base size (I use US pennies as my bases), and vary how many figures I put on the base to tell me the unit size.

This is how I organize my basing:

My full strength normal infantry squad is modeled as 4 figures on a base.


This, for example, is a Romanian rifle squad with LMG.

I don't get too fussed about what's on the stand, but in some armies where there might have been squads without LMGs (all rifles), I do try to consistently put LMGs on the stands that should have LMGs.

If it is a "special purpose" squad -- full strength but not a basic infantry squad, then it gets 3 figures on a stand.

Here for example is a Romanian 60mm mortar squad. It may have had as many men as a rifle squad, but it was not a rifle squad. 3 vs. 4 figures allows me to keep track on the game table of non-rifle squads without having to examine the details of the models on the stand (or write tags for them).

It it is a unit that is smaller than a full strength squad, it gets 2 figures on a stand.

Here for example is a tank hunter team. These were small teams organized from within platoons, with demolitions men (in this case carrying a tellermine) and escorts with SMGs.

Again, having 2 men to a stand tells me immediately that this is not a full strength squad. Whether it represents 2 men, or 5 men, is not key to me. In the rules I play (Mein Panzer), full squads can take 2 hits, but half squads can only take 1.

In the case of the Romanians, the 60mm mortar teams were large … 8-10 men. So it gets a 3 man base. In another army light mortars might have been handled by smaller 3-5 man sections. In that case I would model it as a 2 man base. This helps me keep track of which ones are harder to eliminate.

With this approach I get lots of flexibility.

A small flame-thrower team. This can be added to any platoon or assault team.

Here is a battle group HQ. There is a full size HQ command squad, a medical team, and (in the background, hard to see) a commo team with a field telephone.

Here is an Romanian artillery battery equipped with 75mm French guns. Note the 3 figure bases -- full squad strength, but not standard infantry squads. Note the full strength battery HQ, and the half-squad LMG team providing security.

Here is a Romanian battery equipped with 100mm Skoda howitzers. With my battery structure clarified by the 3 man bases, I leave the guns loose. The same set of bases can be used for different gun batteries depending on the scenario. I take the same approach with my AT gun crews. My Romanians, for example, might use 37mm Bofors, 47mm Bohler, or 75mm Pak97/38 guns, depending on the scenario. I only had to build up one set of gun crews to allow all 3 possibilities.

This also gives me the flexibility to account for destroyed guns separately from destroyed gun crews, which may be useful depending on the rules being played.

Took me a while to settle on this approach, but this is how I base all my infantry now.

Here for example is an Italian infantry company. In the case of the Italians, platoons had separate LMG squads and Rifle squads.

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

GGouveia23 Dec 2016 6:43 p.m. PST

I use fow small bases, 32mm x25mm fits 4 figures well. Works well for weapon teams.

doctorphalanx25 Dec 2016 7:21 p.m. PST

There are some pictures here of some WW1 Pendraken figures. The infantry are all on 30mm square bases.

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And here are some Minifig WW2 figures on 30mm bases.

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For early WW1 I might put 4 figures on a base, and more again for earlier periods.

Weasel26 Dec 2016 1:44 p.m. PST

Good call on using the number of figures as an identifier.

For Crossfire, we used (again in 15mm) 3 figures for squads, 1 for platoon leaders and 2 for company/battalion leaders.

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