"Any information on these three Irish regiments please?" Topic

I am currently vainly searching for information on the service records of three regiments which fought at Aughrim on July 12th 1691 for the period between 1692 and 1698.

All were disbanded on or before that year:

The Earl of Drogheda's (Formerly Thomas Gower's)
The Earl of Lisburne's (which soon became Richard Coote's)
Thomas St John's

Thanks

Here's a start for you:

Per Story's list of English army present at the Finglas Review on 5 Jul, after the Boyne:

Drogheda's (Foot) 660
Lisburne's (Foot) 611
St. John's (Londonderry Foot) 584In Second line, under Stuart (BG) and Tollemache (MG); with 9,19,27, 18th foot, Crighton, St. Johns,Lisburn in a brigade.

No mention of Drogheda (or Gower) being at Aughrim in the OB.

My reference is Appendix B of "The Boyne and Aughrim" by John Kindross, ISBN: 1 900624 07 9, 2nd printing 1998. Aughrim battle narrative starts on page 83. The Williamite OB mentioned above was for 12 Jul 1691, so strengths should remain pretty close for the battle, muster being taken just a week before, I would guess.

Haven't read the battle narrative in many years so any actual unit histories I cannot readily offer other than suggest you seek this book out for more.

Hope this helps.

v/r
Tom

Sapherson gives Drogheda's as disbanded in 1689, although McNally shows it in OoB for the Boyne and C S Grant shows it as disbanded in 1690. Sapherson also shows a separate Thomas Gower's regiment, raised march 1689 -disbanded at the end of 9YW.
Appendix B of Kinross' book does not show Drogheda in the diagram of the two lines of battle at Aughrim. St Johns and Lisburns appear in the second line, as part of Brigadier Stuart's command, as Tom says. In John Barratt's book "Battles for the Three Kingdoms", he mentions St Johns at the Boyne, supporting the Dutch Guards and repulsing a flank attack by the Jacobite cavalry, losing about a dozen men in the process.
Sapherson has Lisburne's disbanded 1697/98. Grant shows it as becoming Coote's, but gives no further details of service.
John Childs does not mention or list any of these regiments in his book "the Nine Years War and the British Army", which suggests they did not serve outside the British Isles, unlike Tiffins, which was an Enniskillen regiment.

Finglas Review was 5th July 1690, not 1691. The fact that Drogheda's is not in the Aughrim battle line, does suggest they were disbanded in 1690, as per C S Grant's book "From Pike to Shotte". I have also found a reference that they were not disbanded until 1691 (Hospital Care and the Standing British Army by Erich Gruber von Arni)

Thanks for that chaps but I have most of the pre 1692 story on all these regiments. I am interested in the bit after 1692 and before 1699. Gower's became Drogheda's after the former was amalgamated with the latter at Dundalk camp in 1689.
Coote's ex Lisburne's probably did stay in Ireland but I have a fraction of a text I copied down which tantalisingly says they may have gone somewhere else after 1692! My notes are ripped!!! Cite firmed a new regiment with the same name in 1702 I think.
St.johns were disbanded in 97 or 98 latest but I am again attempting to fill in important blanks. Appreciate your rallying to the cause!
B

Predictive text damn it. That of course should have read
Coote formed a new regiment in 1702