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ordinarybass08 Dec 2016 7:44 p.m. PST

Not Models.
Saw these two birds at the edge of the DeKalb, IL Airport a few weeks ago. Anyone recognize them? Are they even operable aircraft or maybe just film props?


Sundance08 Dec 2016 8:41 p.m. PST

Good question. The perspective might be foreshortening the wings, but they look a little too small – short and narrow – for the size of the plane, and the engine placement is rather unique – in the wing, rather than above or below, but not in the wing root. I would have said Shorts, but all the ones I can find have multi-tail arrangement. Of course, I don't have any of my references handy. Might be an early CASA production. They tend to have boxy bodies like that. Could also be a mock up of some sort – look at the wheels. The main gear does not appear to actually retract into the sponson, unless it does so through a very complicated motion. The nosewheel also does not appear to retract. But is that a wheel on the tail boom of each aircraft? (Where a ramp should be located.) Never seen anything like that and would seem to confirm a mock up of some sort. I wouldn't think a mock-up would have N numbers though. Especially if they were intended to be some kind of military transports for a movie. Anyway, that's my musings on the subject. Hope somebody can clear up the mystery.

cosmicbank08 Dec 2016 8:41 p.m. PST

it is a c-212 A10 made by CONSTRUCCIONES AERONAUTICAS SA those two are owned by Win Win Aviation out of North Carolina

cosmicbank08 Dec 2016 8:57 p.m. PST

They have an office in De Kalb also.

Ed von HesseFedora09 Dec 2016 6:11 a.m. PST

I think those markings are ex-Chilean AF.

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian09 Dec 2016 7:04 a.m. PST

They look like a poor man's plywood C-130 wannabe.

cosmicbank09 Dec 2016 8:25 a.m. PST

They look fake but the N-numbers are real

ordinarybass09 Dec 2016 8:31 a.m. PST

Thanks CosmicBank!

Looks Like Win is an aircraft procurer. I wonder who said "I need a couple of C-212's"? Odd also that they seem to be winterized and wrapped up. Maybe they bought them without having a buyer lined up?

Here's the wikipedia info for the plane if anyone is interested.
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Facinating aircraft that I'd never heard of before. Says its a STOL. I wonder what the takeoff distance is. It's been in production since the 70's and they're still ramping up production of more in Indonesia.

cosmicbank09 Dec 2016 2:51 p.m. PST

DEA flies them along with a bunch of small countries. Looks like it may come in handy if you want to say "was not one of our planes"

ordinarybass09 Dec 2016 9:02 p.m. PST

Blackwater has/had a couple also…

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