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06 Dec 2016 8:56 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Changed title from "The Top 10 Ancients Titles - 6 December 2015" to "The Top 10 Ancients Titles - 6 December 2016"

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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian06 Dec 2016 8:55 p.m. PST

These are the titles on the list, using the new requirement of five voters before the rating is shown:

1. Dux Bellorum
2. Armati
3. De Bellis Antiquitatis (DBA)
4. Sword & Spear
5. Ancient and Medieval Wargaming
6. Lost Battles
7. Basic Impetus
8. Comitatus
9. Impetus
10. To The Strongest!

Huscarle07 Dec 2016 7:25 a.m. PST

Why are Impetus & Basic Impetus counted separately?

Dale Hurtt07 Dec 2016 7:49 a.m. PST

Now that is more like it, other than Dux Bellorum is a set of Dark Ages rules and not Ancients proper. (Although I did hear that someone made a variant for Sumeria, I believe.)

Marshal Mark07 Dec 2016 11:03 a.m. PST

Yes, it looks much more sensible now that a minimum number of votes are required. I was thinking the same thing about Dux Bellorum. Maybe even though it covers a narrower time period than most rules, the time period it does cover is deemed to overlap the ancients & medieval periods.

Dale Hurtt07 Dec 2016 5:07 p.m. PST

I agree that it overlaps the medieval period. But that has a separate list. The rules do not really cover the ancients period.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian07 Dec 2016 8:46 p.m. PST

Dux Bellorum claims to cover "from the middle of the 4th century to the end of the 8th" – and 500AD has long been the (admittedly arbitrary) point at which TMP divides Ancients and Medievals.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian07 Dec 2016 8:49 p.m. PST

Why are Impetus & Basic Impetus counted separately?

They are different games. You would not consider Impetus to be a supplement to Basic Impetus, would you?

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian08 Dec 2016 6:37 p.m. PST

Updated rankings:

1. Dux Bellorum
2. To The Strongest!
3. Armati
4. De Bellis Antiquitatis (DBA)
5. Tactica
6. Impetus
7. Basic Impetus
8. Ancient and Medieval Wargaming
9. Sword & Spear
10. Lost Battles

coopman08 Dec 2016 8:01 p.m. PST

Tactica? Really? I haven't played that in a loooong time.

wargame insomniac10 Dec 2016 2:39 p.m. PST

You have included both Impetus and Basic Impetus yet excluded Hail Caesar??!!

Makes me question the validity of this list. But whatever floats your boat….

PrussianMonty10 Dec 2016 4:05 p.m. PST

Just wondering how do I vote?

Does seem a little strange that FOG and HC have their own discussion threads but don't feature. Also thought that Maybe L'Art would be there but that may just be because it is popular locally.

Gwydion11 Dec 2016 3:50 p.m. PST

Wargaming Insomniac – look closer: Hail Caesar is not excluded, it just hasn't done that well in the voting – not surprised either.grin

And FOG and L'Art de la Guerre are there as well PrussianMonty.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian12 Dec 2016 6:19 a.m. PST

Just wondering how do I vote?

You can rate any ruleset on its Rules Directory page. TMP link

Does seem a little strange that FOG and HC have their own discussion threads but don't feature. Also thought that Maybe L'Art would be there but that may just be because it is popular locally.

Latest rankings are:

1. To The Strongest!
2. Dux Bellorum
3. Armati
4. De Bellis Antiquitatis (DBA)
5. Basic Impetus
6. Tactica
7. Impetus
8. Ancient and Medieval Wargaming
9. l'Art de la Guerre
10. Lost Battles

Wargamer Dave12 Dec 2016 11:28 a.m. PST

Just because a rules set is well distributed doesn't mean it gets a high rating right?

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian12 Dec 2016 8:28 p.m. PST

Just because a rules set is well distributed doesn't mean it gets a high rating right?

A well-distributed ruleset should get more votes because more gamers are aware of it, but that doesn't mean it will get higher votes!

There may even be a phenomenon of people who vote against a ruleset simply because it is popular.

PrussianMonty17 Dec 2016 4:16 p.m. PST

Thanks for the voting explanation…really appreciated.

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