| Tango01 | 05 Dec 2016 12:33 p.m. PST |
… has been deployed in South Sudan.
"China despatched the first 120 of a 700-member peacekeeping infantry battalion to Juba, capital of South Sudan on Dec. 4. The remainder of the infantry battalion, which has been assigned to a 12-month United Nations (UN) peacekeeping mission, will leave in five separate groups…"
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| thorr666 | 05 Dec 2016 1:27 p.m. PST |
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 javelin98  | 05 Dec 2016 3:05 p.m. PST |
I'm glad they're not Russian peacekeepers. "We'll keep a little piece of Crimea, and we'll keep a little piece of Syria, and we'll keep a little piece of…" |
| Lobsterback | 05 Dec 2016 3:17 p.m. PST |
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| Deadles | 05 Dec 2016 3:27 p.m. PST |
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| Mithmee | 05 Dec 2016 6:09 p.m. PST |
South Sudan, Hmm, I think that when all said and done not all of them will be going home… |
| Deadles | 05 Dec 2016 6:15 p.m. PST |
South Sudanese troops are a cowardly mob more intent on rape and murder of innocents than fighting anyone who can fight back. Place makes North Korea look like a human rights paradise. |
| 15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 05 Dec 2016 7:28 p.m. PST |
are there to secure Chinese oil interests. Obviously. You think they do it for humanitarian reasons out of the goodness of their hearts? It's all about "taking the oil" like the good 'ol days of European Imperialism. youtu.be/ySdhGyqGCZk |
| Bangorstu | 06 Dec 2016 3:22 a.m. PST |
Given the behaviour of Chinese troops in south Sudan has so far been, to put it mildly, utterly craven I don't see why they bother. |
| PMC317 | 06 Dec 2016 3:57 a.m. PST |
Bangorstu – what do you mean? I haven't heard anything about this deployment – possibly answers my question – but surely they operate under the same RoE as all other UN troops in the country. |
 Legion 4  | 07 Dec 2016 8:45 a.m. PST |
I think since China makes up about 20% of the Earth's populous … they should take on more UN Peacekeeping missions. They are one of the UN's P5 as well … Given the behaviour of Chinese troops in south Sudan has so far been, to put it mildly, utterly craven I don't see why they bother.
If true, one has to remember. The Chinese are not as "forgiving", magnanimous, etc., to some that are not like them. As opposed to many of the Western forces when on UN missions. Sometimes it appears to keep the peace, someone has to be "put down", etc., … Bad things can happen regardless of ROE, etc. You won't see like what happened in Bosnia-Kosovo. Where Spanish UN "Peacekeepers" were captured, etc. And the UN's mission was ignored by some of the locals. This won't happen to the Chinese. They are not so "open minded", etc., as some, it appears. |
| Bangorstu | 07 Dec 2016 11:46 a.m. PST |
PMC317 – there was an incident a few months back when some South Sudanese soldiers went on the rampage. UN forces have a sufficiently strong mandate to protect civilians, yet the Chinese (and others) stayed inside their compounds despite direct requests for assistance. the result was a lot of dead people and a lot of raped women, including aid workers. |
| 15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 07 Dec 2016 12:14 p.m. PST |
They weren't the only ones who stood by. Ethiopian and Rwandan peacekeepers also failed to intervene on behalf of the hapless civilians. It's easy for UN Peacekeeping missions to hide behind the lack of a clear chain-of-command for their inaction. |
| Legion 4 | 07 Dec 2016 2:17 p.m. PST |
And the weakness of some UN Peacekeepers is once again revealed … |
| Deadles | 07 Dec 2016 4:17 p.m. PST |
UN forces have a sufficiently strong mandate to protect civilians, yet the Chinese (and others) stayed inside their compounds despite direct requests for assistance. This is completely the norm with the UN. UN peacekeepers serve no real role except as a form of economic assistance to countries providing them. These countries have no national interest to actually do anything constructive in the places where they are peacekeeping.
The ROEs are usually convoluted and level of support (e.g. fire support, aviation ,C3 etc) is quite dire.
Let's not forget Dutch peacekeepers let Serbs slaughter between 8,000 and 15,000 Muslims in Bosnia. They were found to be directly liable for 300 deaths and had to pay compensation to families.
telegraph.co.uk/news/10970694/Dutch-peacekeepers-responsible-for-300-deaths-of-Bosnian-Muslims-in-Srebrenica.html
So you might want to think twice before accusing Chinese troops of being craven.
No doubt they were under orders. In any case fighting the troops of a government whose oil they want would be regarded as counter productive to national interests (unlike the Dutch who had no oil or other pecuniary interests in Bosnia).
I think since China makes up about 20% of the Earth's populous … they should take on more UN Peacekeeping missions. They are one of the UN's P5 as well … P5 are lowest contributors of peacekeepers. Largest ones are some of the poor countries who as stated use it a form of income – Bangladesh, Pakistan, Egypt, India etc as well as a whole heap of sub-Saharan countries. E.g. latest stats from UN about contributions to UN peacekeeiping: un.org/en/peacekeeping/resources/statistics/contributors.shtml un.org/en/peacekeeping/contributors/2016/aug16_2.pdf Note US contribution is a grand total of 68 personnel. |
| Legion 4 | 08 Dec 2016 9:15 a.m. PST |
All good and valid points … |
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