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Tango0128 Nov 2016 9:25 p.m. PST

(Improvised Nuclear Device)

"One of the most terrifying acronyms in the world is IED, or Improvised Explosive Device. First coined by the British in the 1970s, when the IRA demonstrated its expertise in homemade fertilizer bombs, the term IED has come to symbolize a new form of warfare, where death can come at any moment from a device buried in the ground or an innocent-looking car parked at the corner.

But if you thought IEDs were bad, get ready for an even more horrifying acronym: the IND, or Improvised Nuclear Device.

What is an IND? If you've seen any movies or books where the terrorists or the super villains build a nuclear bomb and hold the world hostage, then you know what an IND is…"
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PMC31729 Nov 2016 4:11 a.m. PST

There's been concern about this since at least the 1970s (source: old copies of Look & Learn that I read as a child).

Hopefully it will never happen.

I fear it will, eventually… as the IRA used to say, the state has to be lucky every time.

mwindsorfw29 Nov 2016 6:47 a.m. PST

Building a bomb that will actually work is fairly hard. The concern is the "dirty bomb" that will use conventional explosives to disperse radioactive material. The idea of a dirty bomb has been around for years (decades).

15mm and 28mm Fanatik29 Nov 2016 8:24 a.m. PST

Tom Clancy's 'The Sum of All Fears' provides a vivid portrait of such a scenario.

Great War Ace29 Nov 2016 8:24 a.m. PST

Wouldn't nuclear waste in a fertilizer bomb qualify as a "dirty bomb?" How hard is it to get nuclear waste?

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse29 Nov 2016 9:04 a.m. PST

God forbid this is comes about. Another example/reason why Iran does not need to get nucs, as well as some other nations or groups … With a similar "pedigree" …

ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa29 Nov 2016 12:18 p.m. PST

How hard is it to get nuclear waste?

Properly weaponisable stuff, in storage or transit, that might actually give someone cancer one day, difficult to very difficult, any old crap that might cause panic because of 'teh radiation's' if deployed properly, possibly easier.

Disposed of waste, possibly quite easy, but its virtually unweaponsible – frankly dropping it off a flyover bridge on to the road below in the hope you hit a car would probably your best bet for 'weaponisation'.

Now stuff that you might actually be able to kill people with is likely to result in the individuals trying to obtain it being interred on site in lead and concrete…

Note this dosen't allow for things like old seed irraditors left lying about uncontrolled in the former USSR, but see above for likely fate of people trying that trick unless they are technically savy!

And one phrase why no state is ever going to 'loose control' of a nuke no matter how much money is involved -'nuclear foresnics'.

hocklermp529 Nov 2016 1:53 p.m. PST

The bomb exploding in the movie version of "The Sum Of All Fears", instead of the usual cliché of a last minute "save" by the Good Guys, was sobering. That said, nothing would unify the US more,and bring on "The End Times" these crazies want so much, although not quite how they dream it will be.

Mithmee29 Nov 2016 2:39 p.m. PST

They believe that they will win.

So if they nuke one of our cities they don't consider that would be the end of them.

Because they believe that they will win.

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