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Tango01 | 19 Nov 2016 12:41 p.m. PST |
…. In The Franchise? "After the recent attempted and largely failed attempts at reviving interest in the ‘Terminator' universe, it seems the franchise is at a bit of a crossroads. With the rights to the series having bounced between multiple production companies, the franchise has seemed largely aimless as of late, with the most recent three films – ‘Terminator: Rise of the Machines,' ‘Terminator: Salvation,' and ‘Terminator: Genisys‘ – mostly failing to entice fans at the box office and beyond. In fact, ‘Genisys' was the first of a planned new trilogy, but thanks to poor reviews and theatrical performance, those plans have been quietly scrapped. Recently, German filmmaker and ridiculously long-named human being Bruce Stirling John Knox has created an animated short as a sort of "pitch" to studios (or anyone, really) for his script for a story that would take the Terminator franchise in a new direction. In the animated ‘Extinction,' the action moves to 2047, years after the fall of the evil SkyNet corporation, and the humans have a radical new idea in an attempt to permanently shut down the remaining roving Terminator units. In an interesting bit of trivia, James Cameron actually gets the rights to the Terminator series back to him in 2019. In 1984, when he created the idea for the film as a at-the-time completely unknown and unproven filmmaker, he was forced to sell the rights to the franchise for a whopping $1 USD in exchange for the opportunity to direct the film himself. After 35 long years, the rights will finally be coming home; what he will do with them, if anything, remains to be seen…" Full text and trailer here link Amicalement Armand |
Paint it Pink | 19 Nov 2016 1:26 p.m. PST |
Quite frankly, no. There were a lot of things wrong with the last movie, but also it did a lot of things well, but the critics didn't like it for (insert lame ass I don't like SF story excuse here). The main problem is the lack of originality that can be tolerated within Star Wars or even Star Trek, because they speak to standard story telling tropes: especially SW, doesn't work for the Terminatorverse. I watched the trailer and the reason I condemn it is simple. It has lost the hope for humanity that was the theme driving the first two movies, which are the best two movies. I still think that despite it's limitations The Sarah Connor Chronicles remains the best sequel to the first two movies, and it had an interesting take on the story that wasn't misanthropic. |
Dentatus | 19 Nov 2016 2:23 p.m. PST |
Oh, I'd rent it. Yes, T:G was gawd awful but so what? They're popcorn SF movies. |
Tacitus | 19 Nov 2016 2:34 p.m. PST |
Don't like the animation style. |
nazrat | 19 Nov 2016 5:01 p.m. PST |
That looks absolutely terrible and the plot seems stupid as well. So I would say no, it won't (and shouldn't) revive this franchise. It's done. Move on, nothing to see here! |
Dynaman8789 | 19 Nov 2016 6:28 p.m. PST |
> Yes, T:G was gawd awful but so what? They're popcorn SF movies. So? Doesn't excuse the fact it was a lousy movie. The problem with entertainment options today is not that there is so little of it that we have to watch mediocre (at best) action movies. |
Dentatus | 19 Nov 2016 9:31 p.m. PST |
Who's making excuses? I just wasn't offended is all. Not like I went into it with high expectations. I mean really. The trailer was a dead giveaway, screamed Red Box rental. |
Dynaman8789 | 20 Nov 2016 6:40 a.m. PST |
You implied that a popcorn movie does not have to be good to be worth watching or making in the first place. If that is not excusing bad movie making nothing is. |
Cosmic Reset | 20 Nov 2016 8:04 a.m. PST |
Actually, I would sort of agree with what Dentatus said in concept. A movie really doesn't have to be "good". It just has to meet the makers objective for it to be justified. That might be to present a masterpiece, support a cause, make money from the target audience, or just be a learning exercise, among other things. I think most are just made with the hope of making a profit from a 50% percentile audience, which means that the quality (in whatever form) needs to reach a target standard to achieve success. Going above or below that target likely increases the risk of failure. I don't see it as a matter of "excuses". I can think of several movies that I have watched that entertained me, while admittedly being bad movies. In my case, usually they are comedies that are campy, tongue in cheek, etc. Bad, but still entertaining to me. If you are like me though, you expected something more from the Terminator sequels, and in my opinion, they just didn't deliver. I don't even really care much for the second Terminator movie, don't quite like the direction they went with Sara Conner, can't stand John's character. The Sarah Connor Chronicles did work for me though. I've only seen about 10 minutes of the last movie, as I just got bored. I went into it somewhat disillusioned by the one before it, was bored by what I saw, didn't like the casting, and gave up on it pretty quickly. The animated thing presented above doesn't work for me, I think largely for the reason presented by Paint it Pink above. I 'm not excited by the an animated presentation to start with (Terminator is a live action thing to me), and I would prefer what I would project to be a more original or interesting story, told without further corrupting the Terminator setting. The one offered seems limited to just creating an endless, mindless action flick. I suspect that the only way that I'll be happy with the next Terminator movie, is to put my $200 USD million where my mouth (or keyboard) is. But then y'all would just complain about how I missed the mark, so I'm not doing it. |
Weasel | 20 Nov 2016 8:37 a.m. PST |
I'm going to go ahead and say that the Terminator franchise should be given a good, long rest of a decade or more. |
Badgers | 20 Nov 2016 9:42 a.m. PST |
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Dentatus | 20 Nov 2016 1:28 p.m. PST |
Dynaman8789 – are you really getting snitty over the Terminator movies? Or that I have a different opinion/ expectations for SF films? Settle down. There's lots of things to get upset about in this world – SF movies isn't one of them. Actually I implied nothing of the sort. I didn't say T:G or the animated thing was good: they're cheap entertainment. Even at their best, I don't expect them to be any more than just that. And if SyFy Channel proves anything, it's that while the bar for SF shows is pretty low, there's still a market for it. Anyway… Have a Happy Thanksgiving. |
Old Wolfman | 21 Nov 2016 8:21 a.m. PST |
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Der Krieg Geist | 29 Nov 2016 7:18 p.m. PST |
The animation style is different,but not bad. The concept is played out and Judaeo-Christian apocalyptic human self hatred is so thick its gag worthy. Crap, in my eyes,anyway. |
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