teramaze | 18 Nov 2016 10:24 p.m. PST |
I am look for information on the Btty C 1st Ohio Lt Arty. at the battle of Chickamauga. I need the to know how many and what type of guns they had. The were part of the 14 army corps 3rd Division attached to 2nd Brigade. thank for any help you can provide. |
John Thomas8 | 18 Nov 2016 11:54 p.m. PST |
4 14-pounder James rifles, 2 12-pounder Napoleons. |
11th ACR | 18 Nov 2016 11:54 p.m. PST |
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scurtisva | 19 Nov 2016 7:05 a.m. PST |
John Thomas8 What is your source of information for the 4 14-pounders? I have not done extensive research on that battery and have been relying on Brad Butkovich's "The River of Death" scenario book, which lists the battery as having 4 6lb JR. I am guessing that Brad means these were Type 1 James Rifles that were 6lb smooth bore gun rifled to accept the 14lb James shell. Craig Swain's site (To the Sound of the Guns markerhunter.wordpress.com/)has excellent descriptions of these types of guns. From a gaming perspective (15mm and less) these guns would look like 6lb smooth bores, but any additional reference materiel would be great. |
Cleburne1863 | 19 Nov 2016 8:15 a.m. PST |
The battery was armed with 2x Napoleons and 4x Type 1 6-pdr smoothbores converted to James rifles. I'm sure the chart for the division is in the Official Records somewhere, but I don't have it handy. I do have the report for the battery from Lt. Marco B. Gary. link He specifically mentions the use/lose etc. of his 6-pounder James rifles, so he's not talking about the Type 2 shaped like a bronze Ordnance Rifle. |
Cleburne1863 | 19 Nov 2016 8:55 a.m. PST |
Also, track down The Role of Ordnance Logistics in the Chickamauga Campaign by Major John Davis. I'm sure you can find the pdf online. It lists the artillery and small arms for almost every unit during the battle. At least for the Union. The Confederate side is understandably a little more sparse, especially in infantry small arms. Still, a good resource. |
ColCampbell | 19 Nov 2016 9:49 a.m. PST |
The first "hit" in this Google search is the on-line PDF of Davis' work. link Many thanks for the citation! Jim |
donlowry | 19 Nov 2016 9:58 a.m. PST |
I always heard the converted 6-pdrs referred to as 12-pounders, not 14-pounders. |
scurtisva | 19 Nov 2016 1:35 p.m. PST |
Cleburn1863, Thanks for the clarification. I figured that is what you meant. Am I correct assuming no Union batteries that had the Type 2 at Chickamauga? |
John Thomas8 | 19 Nov 2016 4:29 p.m. PST |
scurtisva, what you said. They weren't 14s, they were rifled 6s. My apologies. |
Cleburne1863 | 19 Nov 2016 6:39 p.m. PST |
I don't think there were any Type 2 at Chickamagua. Slocumb's Washington Artillery lists 2 James rifles, but doesn't give weight or diameter. They were probably Type 1 6-pdr conversions as well. |
scurtisva | 19 Nov 2016 10:07 p.m. PST |
John, No apologies needed. Sorting out the exact type of James Rifles used, is the Civil War gamer's equivalent of counting rivets ;^) Cleburne1863, I found a reference in "Cannoneers In Gray" saying they had 3.8-inch James, so I guess it was the type 1. |
John Thomas8 | 20 Nov 2016 12:12 a.m. PST |
That's what I thought I read, but forgot to include the link so I had nothing to back up my post. |
teramaze | 22 Nov 2016 9:03 a.m. PST |
thank you that help finish the division. That was given by a friend |