Editor in Chief Bill | 15 Nov 2016 6:52 a.m. PST |
In a recent poll – TMP link – you voted for American Revolution as the period you were most interested in, but wouldn't get around to gaming. What keeps you from getting to this period? |
Saber6 | 15 Nov 2016 7:04 a.m. PST |
Detailed knowledge. Painted figures. Opponents |
DisasterWargamer | 15 Nov 2016 7:13 a.m. PST |
Nothing Enjoy both small and larger battlrs |
Broglie | 15 Nov 2016 7:15 a.m. PST |
I am not overwhelmed by the range of figures currently available in 15mm. Even the Old Glory figures are rather lacklustre. Otherwise I think it would be an excellent period to game. |
Jozis Tin Man | 15 Nov 2016 7:16 a.m. PST |
NOTHING!!! Just started a project for the Southern Campaign. Doing it in 6mm, so I can affordably have all of the different units. I think that wide variety of units and uniforms may be what intimidates people, as well as making it interesting. Just for the British at Cowpens, you have a small army, but Highlanders (in pants), British Legion infantry and cavalry, Light Infantry, and Regular Foot. I think it is daunting to do in 28mm. Now in 6mm it is a snap. I will have 40 figure line regiments with all the flavors of British Troops, Hessians, lights, Volunteers of Ireland, militia galore, Continentals, 71st Higlanders AND Royal NC Highlanders, Riflemen, Lee's Legion, etc. for <$150. I am not affiliated with peter at Baccus, besides being a loyalcustomer, but here is his line of AWI figures: link There are plenty of resources out there, I also reccomend the Black Powder Rebellion! book even if you don;t play Black Powder, as it has a uniform guide a tons of scenarios. |
Kevin C | 15 Nov 2016 7:17 a.m. PST |
I already have too many projects. A couple of years ago, I cut back on the number of periods from which I paint miniatures and I have no plans to add any more. I narrowed my field to a couple of dozen, so it doesn't leave me any room (both physical space and time) to add more periods. |
warwell | 15 Nov 2016 7:30 a.m. PST |
I'm strictly playing imagi-nations at this time. |
Rich Bliss | 15 Nov 2016 7:36 a.m. PST |
I'm just a handful of figures away from Saratoga. |
miniMo | 15 Nov 2016 7:39 a.m. PST |
* Chose another segment of the Horse & Musket period for my painting. Napoleonics for me. I'll never get those all painted, never mind bringing in other wars! |
Whitewolf36 | 15 Nov 2016 7:48 a.m. PST |
Time, failing eyesight, lack of opponents, the usual suspects… |
whitphoto | 15 Nov 2016 7:48 a.m. PST |
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Jamesonsafari | 15 Nov 2016 7:49 a.m. PST |
No interest SYW scratches my tricorne itch If I want something more local I'd do. War of 1812 |
olicana | 15 Nov 2016 7:51 a.m. PST |
I don't do skirmish gaming. (Tongue in cheek, but most of the battles are very small by European standards). That's my only reason. Otherwise, I think it is very interesting. I'll continue to read books about it but, that's all. |
Dale Hurtt | 15 Nov 2016 7:55 a.m. PST |
Finding good rules that I like, that don't make the British into Rocks of Gibraltar, and the Patriot militia into milquetoast. |
richarDISNEY | 15 Nov 2016 8:10 a.m. PST |
No interest in something like this. And big battles bore me.
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Weasel | 15 Nov 2016 8:40 a.m. PST |
Period isn't super interesting to me and nobody I know wanted to play it. |
The Beast Rampant | 15 Nov 2016 9:30 a.m. PST |
AmRev just falls outside that projected area. Earlier tricorn-era stuff just appeals to me more. If I had a willing opponent, things might be different. |
doug redshirt | 15 Nov 2016 9:40 a.m. PST |
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Ivan DBA | 15 Nov 2016 10:15 a.m. PST |
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jambo1 | 15 Nov 2016 11:13 a.m. PST |
Nothing, it's a great period to wargame. |
Big Martin Back | 15 Nov 2016 11:23 a.m. PST |
Doesn't interest me. FIW yes. |
Pan Marek | 15 Nov 2016 11:24 a.m. PST |
Nothing. I love it (but I live in NJ, AWI central). My group, however, vastly prefers Nappies. Bigger battles and they want lots of cav. |
Winston Smith | 15 Nov 2016 11:43 a.m. PST |
It doesn't bother me that some can't take the step. I have more than enough for our group, and Darrell and Roger in 15mm. So everybody else on our group need not bother. We have it covered. |
John Leahy | 15 Nov 2016 11:53 a.m. PST |
Yeah, I am a AWI lover. I began gaming it with my Airfix figures long, long ago. I still have them along with newer plastics and B&B miniatures. I believe it was in '75 when I started. Played campaigns using Redcoat. I also do it in 28mm (still working on the forces with my buddies). Thanks. |
Paint it Pink | 15 Nov 2016 12:06 p.m. PST |
What I always say is, "No tanks, no thanks." Besides, I'm British. ;-) |
boggler | 15 Nov 2016 12:10 p.m. PST |
Fiddly painting. …and the FYI just seems more cool. |
martin goddard | 15 Nov 2016 12:47 p.m. PST |
Might be better to have a topic titled "what i enjoy about…" which might create some "step offs" for those who might become interested. I might then reply. I enjoy the different types of infantry , in terms of fighting mode and purpose (lights, line, militia, Indians all have important idiosyncrasies ). The lack of cavalry prevents the scenery harming an army with a lot of cavalry. Thus a field system with hills can still give an equally challenging game to both armies? martin
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krisgibbo | 15 Nov 2016 2:59 p.m. PST |
A very enjoyable period to game with a variety of troop types and causes close to our hearts and homes even now. I favour smaller games and gaming light with absolute accuracy of uniforms very much second to the spectacle. There are discussions over the shade of cuffs on by the Napoleonic buffs despite the effects that campaigning over any length of time in the open air in such a changeable climate would have on 18th/ 19th century cloth. That being said, I do plan to change my Loyalist Rangers from red to white facings in the near future. But I will continue to enjoy the games. 'Nuff said…. |
advocate | 15 Nov 2016 3:00 p.m. PST |
Too many other projects. People at the club have AWI forces for Sharp Practice that I could play with if I need a fix. |
Striker | 15 Nov 2016 4:02 p.m. PST |
Too many other projects, lack of knowledge. I like the figures available and would like to paint them but I have too much as it is. |
piper909 | 15 Nov 2016 4:22 p.m. PST |
Willing to play, learn more about the period, and build some units, but no energy/money/time/space to be compelled to build it ALL or take the lead. I'll serve, but not command. So a critical mass of committed local players needs to evolve that I can be a part of. |
ironicon | 15 Nov 2016 4:43 p.m. PST |
It is a lot of work, for not much reward. I have. 3 battalions of each side. Perrey's and they are very nice sculpts. |
Wackmole9 | 15 Nov 2016 5:07 p.m. PST |
No Emotional attachment to the period. |
Winston Smith | 15 Nov 2016 5:39 p.m. PST |
From a purely objective wargaming point of view, it is possible to game very important battles at a figure scale of 1:10 or 1:20 with 25/28mm figures on a 9'x5' table. Try doing that with Napoleonics. You can even do very important battles like Cowpens at 1:5. There is a great variety in troop quality to play with and amuse yourself. Uniforms are colorful. If you want to nitpick facing colors, you won't get far. 18th Century gamers are so much more civilized and we always claim the colors faded in weather. Not to mention that the Wyoming Massacre took place less than two miles from my house as the crow flies. We have a large variety of wonderful figures to choose from. Ditto rules that work. This is a perfect period for one or two guys in a club who are enthusiasts to do all the heavy lifting. They can play with the other guys zombies or SYW or Omdurman or Napoleonic or ironclads or Punic War figures, and then host Germantown for the lads. No mix max tournament armies. Unless you count the Cornwalis Task Force of course. I still say that guy was a wargamer. |
Lascaris | 15 Nov 2016 6:08 p.m. PST |
For me nothing, we already game the AWI. My vote was for the Crimean War. Just too many other projects to dive into that. |
Toronto48 | 15 Nov 2016 7:53 p.m. PST |
Will eventually do it if I live long enough as thereare ots o projects ahead of it |
rmaker | 15 Nov 2016 8:52 p.m. PST |
Nothing, except the fact that we're moving and NO miniatures are getting painted right now. |
Prince Alberts Revenge | 15 Nov 2016 9:00 p.m. PST |
Indecision. Love the period, some great figures out there and I enjoy using Maurice for the rules. My two favorite battles are Cowpens and Trenton. I collected 10mm armies for Cowpens, almost finished them and never gamed with them. I started collecting and painting the Cowpens' armies in 15mm, but now I look at Pendraken's AWI range and part of me wants to go back to 10mm. While I've never gamed Cowpens, I have gamed Trenton and other Philadelphia campaign battles. |
Ironwolf | 15 Nov 2016 11:42 p.m. PST |
I have all the figs painted up, the rule book all read and only a few players in my area… |
COL Scott ret | 16 Nov 2016 12:56 a.m. PST |
Time and money. Give me both and I am all in. |
RebelPaul | 16 Nov 2016 3:53 a.m. PST |
I lack the financial resources. |
Militia Pete | 16 Nov 2016 5:20 a.m. PST |
NOthing. I like that my F&I natives can be used all the way up to Wayne's Legion. Big battles and small battles. Really fun period. Great uniforms. |
Old Contemptibles | 16 Nov 2016 8:25 a.m. PST |
I am not overwhelmed by the range of figures currently available in 15mm. I think it is daunting to do in 28mm. big battles bore me. The AWI is the perfect conflict for 28mm figures. The battles are SMALL. There are lots of excellent figures available for this period in 28mm. If you only do one period in 28mm, this is the perfect one. |
Old Contemptibles | 16 Nov 2016 8:32 a.m. PST |
You really don't need that many figures to get into the period. Sure some of use have almost every unit in the conflict. But a basic army is not that huge. |
codiver | 17 Nov 2016 7:41 a.m. PST |
Love the period, but having trouble finding a set of rules everyone likes. We started with British Grenadier, but the DP mechanic is just WAY too fiddly. Also there is the order issue. We tried a couple of FnF variants, but the "one side moves/both sides shoot/melee then the other side moves/both sides shoot/melee" to complete one turn is pretty slow. I will also admit it's the best we've found so far. Tried the 25-28mm "official" variant for RF&F, but the movement/fire distances are simply ridiculous, and have the same slow turn sequence as mentioned above. Tried a modified version of Rank & File, but I don't think it handles the diverse sized units as well as others. We like our modified R&F, and don't have the issue, with SYW, as the units are close to the same sizes. I have Guns of Liberty and The British are Coming, but haven't tried them. Both look like they will play very slow, due to all of the modifiers one has to go through to calculate a shot or a melee. I have not played Black Powder, but have read enough AARs to be pretty sure that's not the way we want to go either. |
Old Contemptibles | 17 Nov 2016 12:45 p.m. PST |
Our club ended up modifying a set of free rules we found on a rules site. With the author's permission we modified and made our own, "Sons of Liberty." I also found BG to be too fiddly. |
historygamer | 17 Nov 2016 1:17 p.m. PST |
"We started with British Grenadier, but the DP mechanic is just WAY too fiddly. Also there is the order issue." We love the DP process. It does a good job of representing the friction of 18th century warfare and keeps the casualties down to a realistic level. What is the order issue you have problems with? |
DWilliams | 17 Nov 2016 7:20 p.m. PST |
I've always been interested in AWI. I started painting 25mm Hinchliffe figures back in the "Bicentennial era" in the 1970s as a teenager. I got back into this period in 15mm several years ago. It was the really excellent Blue Moon/Old Glory figures that piqued my interest. After painting a few hundred and displaying them on the table, my club caught the same bug, and now several members are painting AWI figures. |
Soldat | 18 Nov 2016 10:16 a.m. PST |
Waiting on some perrys to start a small project. |
Scorpio | 18 Nov 2016 1:26 p.m. PST |
Please include a selection for 'passive aggressive poll suggestions like this one.' |