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Personal logo Endless Grubs Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2016 5:24 p.m. PST

Can anyone direct me to images, drawings, or models that depict refinery oil storage and associated structures in Europe on the eve of WW2? For that matter--any POL storage OTHER than barrels in a pile covered with a tarp (or Ploesti after bombing) would be useful!

Thanks in advance!

JasonAfrika04 Nov 2016 5:39 p.m. PST

Pretty much the same style storage tanks as today: Hope this helps-
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jdpintex04 Nov 2016 7:46 p.m. PST

Pretty much the same as now. Rivets instead of welds. More black/iron tanks. Obviously no floating roof tanks.

For the Refinery, just distilling columns, mostly fairly small diameter.

Narratio04 Nov 2016 8:03 p.m. PST

I work in oil & gas and, as jdpintex and JasonAfrika say, they're pretty much the same as today. A bit more spread out, no instrumentation, lots more hand controls. But tanks are still tanks but small, 10M or so, nothing like the megabarrel beasts we use today, fractionation columns were a lot smaller, pipe racks were single level, mostly steel but sometimes wood. The substations (it is to laugh!) and local testing shelters were peaked roof wood or brick buildings. All being a lot closer to the plant than would be allowed today.

I'm sure a google search on 1930 oil refineries would fins some pretty pictures.

JasonAfrika04 Nov 2016 8:34 p.m. PST

Narratio, where would they have tried to bomb in a perfect world back then? the storage tanks or all that other equipment you mentioned. I understand they couldn't be that precise but now I'm thinking of doing a Ploesti Raid game in 1/600 like the one I just found below

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JasonAfrika04 Nov 2016 8:40 p.m. PST

BTW check out the storage tanks at Madras in 1914 after the Emden shelled them
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Rudysnelson04 Nov 2016 9:16 p.m. PST

There are good Aerial photos in several books on the air raids of the oil refineries such as Polotsi. They show the refinery targets.

Grelber04 Nov 2016 9:18 p.m. PST

The US military fuel tanks at Pearl Harbor and Hickam Field were not attacked during the December 7 raids. Here is a link to a couple nice photos of the tanks. link
Googling "fuel tanks Pearl Harbor" will bring up additional photos. They seem to have berms around them.

Grelber

Gaz004505 Nov 2016 2:13 a.m. PST

goo.gl/images/8yl2odLook up photos of the oil tank farms in Malaya


On a side link, there is a book (xd operations) detailing the activities of a Royal Engineer unit that was assigned in 1940 to destroy the oil installations in Holland, Belgium and France…..they were landing and driving in the opposite directions to everybody else!

Durban Gamer05 Nov 2016 4:49 a.m. PST

I need to make a few Oil tanks in 1/300 for Operation Torch, so this thread and pics have been very helpful -thanks to all.

jdpintex05 Nov 2016 7:37 a.m. PST

PVC end caps make great storage tanks and they come in a variety of sizes.

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