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Wolfhag20 Oct 2016 4:06 p.m. PST

Turkey now has 50 FW-190's:
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Wolfhag

Steve Wilcox20 Oct 2016 4:11 p.m. PST

Wow, that would be awesome! :)

Mako1120 Oct 2016 4:21 p.m. PST

I want one.

Will happily throw my undying support for the current regime in exchange for one, or more.

pmwalt20 Oct 2016 5:26 p.m. PST

That would be so cool … even if a small percentage could be restored to museum quality

jowady20 Oct 2016 6:15 p.m. PST

Yeah, I remember about three years ago when a bunch of Spitfires were "found" in crates in India, by an "amateur historian". Those Spits were "buried" as well. That turned out to be a hoax and I really don't see this turning out any differently.

Mako1120 Oct 2016 8:01 p.m. PST

FW-190D if you please, but beggars can't be choosers.

Fatman21 Oct 2016 5:28 a.m. PST

Mako11
If they are there, and like jowady I will wait and see, they will be A models that is what the Germans gave them.

Hopefully this ime we will be lucky.

jowady
Hoax implies deliberate deception. From everything I have read the man in question really believed that the Spitfires existed.

Fatman

zoneofcontrol21 Oct 2016 9:20 a.m. PST

Wouldn't it be awesome if the Spits and 190s were actually found, dug up and restored. Would make for some cool 1:1 live scenarios.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2016 11:36 a.m. PST

Well, right now the Turkish Air Force already has more planes than pilots, so it should be a buyer's market

jowady21 Oct 2016 9:18 p.m. PST

Of course this all begs the question of why on Earth anyone would bury these things? The answer of course is that you wouldn't. Now as far as the Spitfires went the story was that the Japanese were coming so they buried them, in their "shipping crates" to keep them from falling into Japanese hands, yeah sure. And of course as it turned out that wasn't the case. As for these supposed FW190s, well, when they hit the end of their service life you scrap them or sell them, you don't "bury" them.

Mako1123 Oct 2016 6:15 p.m. PST

See the Iraqi Air Force – not buried well, but definitely under tons of sand.

Apparently, many of the uneducated masses were not clear on how such high-tech gear responds to being stuffed with sand, and buried beneath it.

guineapigfury26 Oct 2016 5:15 p.m. PST

My understanding is that the planes could have been returned to service, although requiring a complete overhaul. That would likely have been cheaper than buying new planes.

number406 Nov 2016 6:59 p.m. PST

Has anyone ever seen a Spitfire shipping crate? Not the sort of thing you can bury a dozen of in a hurry

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Russ Lockwood06 Nov 2016 9:16 p.m. PST

Didn't someone claim to have found a buried Nazi gold train in Poland or Latvia or somewhere out there? I think that turned out to be a non-event.

On the other hand, I was in Pueblo, Colorado, and visited the warplane museum there and the guys running it said the airfield was a B-24 training base. With many accidents over the years, the Army bulldozed the wrecks somewhere around the base and buried them. The goal (or dream) was to research the spot using ground penetrating radar. BTW, nice museum located in a hanger…

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