| Camcleod | 19 Oct 2016 7:41 a.m. PST |
Interesting vehicle and camo pattern.
What vehicle is this ?
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| shaun from s and s models | 19 Oct 2016 7:53 a.m. PST |
looks like a m706 commando or the modern variant the m1117
i think it is called |
| Apache 6 | 19 Oct 2016 8:04 a.m. PST |
I'm not certain, but I believe that is a modified M117 security vehicle. |
| Gaz0045 | 19 Oct 2016 9:13 a.m. PST |
The Kurds had a Urutu 6 wheeler apc on the news yesterday, mtlb's with deck mounted 23mm guns and T55's in the same column…… |
pzivh43  | 19 Oct 2016 9:19 a.m. PST |
Not sure the camo works very well in that environment---but it is pretty! |
| nickinsomerset | 19 Oct 2016 9:26 a.m. PST |
M117 with a modified turret, Tally Ho! |
| Camcleod | 19 Oct 2016 9:28 a.m. PST |
Thanks for the I.D.
Odd looking camo for a desert operation. Maybe to match their uniforms ?
Side skirts I suppose are to deflect small arms fire at the tires. What are the two posts on the engine deck ? |
 Legion 4  | 19 Oct 2016 9:40 a.m. PST |
Yes, I'd go with the M1117. link Are these actual Iraqi governmental forces ? Or one of the militias, etc. ? The posts on the rear deck ? Good question … the M1117 didn't have those as far as I know ? But those were issued to US Forces after I got off active duty. |
| Pan Marek | 19 Oct 2016 9:41 a.m. PST |
I don't get the colors on the vehicle or the uniforms. It would seem not that hard to get "desert color" pain or uniforms, but I see black alot in photos. Don't they believe in the "if you can be seen, you can be hit, if you can be hit, you can be killed" advice? |
| Legion 4 | 19 Oct 2016 9:46 a.m. PST |
Well … as we know the various Iraqi forces are not generally known for their combat effectiveness, efficiency, fieldcraft, etc., … Save for most of the Kurds … |
| dsfrank | 19 Oct 2016 9:50 a.m. PST |
that's their 'night camo' |
| rick32 | 19 Oct 2016 10:00 a.m. PST |
It is the M1117 ASV, we gave/sold/left many to the Iraqi police and army. The police ones I saw were painted light blue and white. As to the uniform? That would be anyone's guess, although I would tend toward an Iraqi Army 'Special' forces units as they are uniformed and no green head scarfs which would indicate Shiite militia. Heck they could be Iraqi Air Force security personnel… |
| Camcleod | 19 Oct 2016 10:07 a.m. PST |
Found this whole unit in similar black camo.
They stand out very distinctly against the desert.
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| nickinsomerset | 19 Oct 2016 10:10 a.m. PST |
Cam, They look like the CTS, Tally Ho! |
| Martian Root Canal | 19 Oct 2016 11:15 a.m. PST |
Speculation, but they may be painted uniformly black to be easily detectable to aerial assets operating in support. |
| Weasel | 19 Oct 2016 11:19 a.m. PST |
Could be for urban combat ? |
| 15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 19 Oct 2016 11:33 a.m. PST |
The second pic looks like they're shooting a sequel to the new 'Mad Max.' |
| LostPict | 19 Oct 2016 12:38 p.m. PST |
They match that smoke pillar in the background – good camo if the Hellfires strike. ;-) |
| GarrisonMiniatures | 19 Oct 2016 2:56 p.m. PST |
My guess is it's to avoid friendly fire. I don't think Cmourflage would be a major help in that war – long range enemy would miss, short range would see you anyway! |
| Lion in the Stars | 19 Oct 2016 3:26 p.m. PST |
Don't they believe in the "if you can be seen, you can be hit, if you can be hit, you can be killed" advice? No, they don't. It is Allah's will if they get hit or not. And Allah's will if they survive getting hit. |
| Legion 4 | 19 Oct 2016 4:04 p.m. PST |
It is Allah's will if they get hit or not. And Allah's will if they survive getting hit. Good point Lion !  the M1117 ASV, we gave/sold/left many to the Iraqi police and army I've see pics of Daesh driving M1117s too. We know where they got them. And obviously these in the pics are not Daesh though. Is that a Port-a-Pot in the left foreground of the 2d pic ?  |
| Kevin C | 19 Oct 2016 8:57 p.m. PST |
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Pat Ripley  | 20 Oct 2016 4:32 a.m. PST |
could they be an iraqi federal police unit? theres a yellow insignia behind the side hatch but i cant make it out. |
| Camcleod | 20 Oct 2016 6:39 a.m. PST |
Pat You may be right.
A Iraqi_Federal_Police_Emblem – very close.
link |
