Spudeus | 11 Oct 2016 8:28 a.m. PST |
Maybe I'm not looking in the right places, but are there 15mm Arabs/nomads, Lakhmids say, from c. 4th century CE? Seems most mini-makers concentrate on the later Muslim conquest period, and some of those might suffice, but others look out of place. |
Oh Bugger | 11 Oct 2016 9:38 a.m. PST |
Ancient&Modern have a specific Donnington range of antique Arabs in 15mm. I don't have any and there are no pics so I cannot say much more. I'm tempted to get some samples. They do have a pic of a very nice Arab foot archer in their Sassanid range. According to the Montvert book the wealthiest Arab city cavalry looked like wealthy Sassanids so that might be of help. I want some of these myself so I hope you get more replies. |
McWong73 | 11 Oct 2016 4:29 p.m. PST |
War and Empire's range is worth checking out too. Not a large selection mind you, but they are pre Conquest period. |
Berthier2 | 11 Oct 2016 6:05 p.m. PST |
There are currently only three packs in the War & Empire range for the Antique Arabs: Camel Archers Light Horse Archers Arab Skirmishers – mix pack of bow and sling |
Bellbottom | 12 Oct 2016 2:26 a.m. PST |
I'm sure Essex do some pre Islamic Arabs too |
Spudeus | 12 Oct 2016 3:43 a.m. PST |
Essex certainly has them, but they are labeled 'Arab Conquest'. Digging a little, I found that Lancashire has a small range specifically called 'Pre-Islamic Arab'. Donnington as mentioned has a fair number of poses, also. So, mixing and matching it should be possible. Hopefully, W&E will expand their range. From what little I've read, Arab kingdoms had some intense conflicts with Sassanid Persia, as well as with Rome (incl. Mavia's rebellion). They seem to deserve a dedicated line! |
Oh Bugger | 12 Oct 2016 4:05 a.m. PST |
Quite right about Arab conflicts with Rome and Persia. From what I can deduce we are looking for figures without turbans. The armoured cavalry seem well enough catered for. I'm wondering what to use for heavy infantry swordsmen. For lighter troops some Berber figures might do. Mixing and matching seems to be the way to go. |
Craig R Davey | 12 Oct 2016 5:28 a.m. PST |
Essex do some quite nice pre-Islamic Arabs. You need to look a bit harder at their catalogue! Only issues (if deemed as such) is that they don't come with shields and these would need to be added, IIRC. |
Lewisgunner | 12 Oct 2016 6:22 a.m. PST |
Late Antique Arabs have two main clothing styles. One is the semi naked but with a long loose cloth that can wrap around the waist and over the shoulder, rather like a Scottish plaid. This is the dress for Arabs on the panels of the chair of Bishop Maximian in Ravenna. The other is the standard dress of the Romano Persian frontier with long sleeved tunic and widish trousers gathered at the ankles, both with embroidered panels. I'd call it Iranian. The city dwellers and Arabs from the tribes such as the Lakhmids Ghassanids who fought for Persia and Rome likely wore this Iranian dress, whereas the Bedouin were most likely to wear just the cotton cloth. |
Khusrau | 12 Oct 2016 12:37 p.m. PST |
And Pre-Islamic Arabs were quite a sophisticated culture. The trope about mad desert dwellers bursting from sandy fastnesses isn't accurate, no matter how later political viewpoints would try to depict it. |
Lorenzo | 10 Nov 2016 5:39 a.m. PST |
Probably the best choice would be to use maccabean Jewish figures from Xyston since in that period they are very similar to Early Arabs I believe. The Xyston figures are just gorgeous when compared to others. |