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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian10 Oct 2016 4:30 p.m. PST

When a new ACW ruleset comes out, how interested are you?

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP10 Oct 2016 4:35 p.m. PST

About 3 out of 10 – I have so many already.

But if it offers something really different – then I'll take a look.

Wackmole910 Oct 2016 4:37 p.m. PST

Still looking for a good company level rules set

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP10 Oct 2016 5:00 p.m. PST

Not much. But I will look at almost any rules set which doesn't involve rebasing or a roster.

john lacour10 Oct 2016 5:02 p.m. PST

I'm not really. I play johnny reb 3 but am giving regimental fire and fury a look.

I was really looking forword to john hills "across this deadly field" a few years back, and while I have loved all versions of johnny reb, I was sorly diapponited in mr hills last Game effort.

steve186510 Oct 2016 5:08 p.m. PST

I really liked JR3. I hear another rules set 2D6 will come out soon. Similar to JR3,but much easier to play.

Benvartok10 Oct 2016 5:30 p.m. PST

Grabbed Longstreet but not read or played.

F n F original was fantastic for years. Now Regimental Rules rule!

Won't buy any more….

The Nigerian Lead Minister10 Oct 2016 5:34 p.m. PST

If they sound interesting I'll pick them up, but I'm not searching for new rules.

Othra the thief10 Oct 2016 5:55 p.m. PST

Like looking at new rules. But we Have our own home brew rules which we like a lot.

DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP10 Oct 2016 6:07 p.m. PST

I'm good with the period

Grignotage10 Oct 2016 6:51 p.m. PST

I'm always interested in new rules, though as of now Fire and Fury remains my favorite.

rmaker10 Oct 2016 7:10 p.m. PST

Agree with 20thmaine.

Lascaris10 Oct 2016 7:14 p.m. PST

Looking forward to the new brigade fire and fury.

Rich Bliss10 Oct 2016 7:27 p.m. PST

Zero. I've already got the only ACW rules I need

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP10 Oct 2016 7:35 p.m. PST

Not particularly interested.

TKindred Supporting Member of TMP10 Oct 2016 7:52 p.m. PST

I am always interested in perusing new rules to see if they have any new or interesting mechanism, ideas, etc. Always willing to steal concepts from one rule set to another if it's a solid idea.

But for regular rules, I still like Volley & Bayonet, and am still developing a set of rules using the Impetus engine.

Winston Smith10 Oct 2016 8:32 p.m. PST

Run this poll again in AWI and I'll give you an answer. grin

Forager10 Oct 2016 8:44 p.m. PST

Even though there are already some good rules sets out there, I am always interested in checking out what's new for ACW. I'll read promo material and look for reviews & AARs. If I like what I see, I'll pick up a copy and give 'em a try.

Houdini10 Oct 2016 11:05 p.m. PST

Stopped looking for new rules when I started writing my own.

Personal logo Stosstruppen Supporting Member of TMP10 Oct 2016 11:16 p.m. PST

Fire & Fury guy so no interest in a different set of rules.

Ssendam11 Oct 2016 1:21 a.m. PST

Looking for FnF Brigage v2 to come out but nothing else.

Trajanus11 Oct 2016 1:26 a.m. PST

At the moment, very interested, as I'm waiting for Pickett's Charge to come back from the printers as it's command method and game size will give me something different to Longstreet which I've played since it came out.

May well keep playing Longstreet as well for the niche gaming it provides.

I'm always intrigued by the loyalty of ACW players on TMP, you couldn't pay me to play Fire & Fury after all these years, nor the Regimental version either.

Once I'm done with a rule set, I'm done with it!

ChrisBBB11 Oct 2016 2:57 a.m. PST

Trying any new ruleset takes a significant investment. You have to consider, not just the cash cost of buying the rules, but other factors which are really more important than a few $$$:

- the mental effort of learning new game mechanisms;
- the social effort of persuading your gaming buddies to do likewise;
- the opportunity cost of gaming time spent on the unknown new ruleset vs using familiar rules you know you'll enjoy;
- possibly some extra effort or cost of paraphernalia (special counters, dice, markers, sabot bases).

On the positive side of the ledger, of course, there's:
- the chance of discovering a game that is better than what we use already, with all the future benefit that entails;
- and for many people, just trying something new is good in itself.

Me, I'm a bit of a stick-in-the-mud – I knows what I likes, and I likes what I knows. No new ACW rulesets for me, thanks!

Chris

Bloody Big BATTLES!
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langobard11 Oct 2016 4:48 a.m. PST

Another vote for looking forward to Brigade F&F V2, but apart from that fine with Regimental F&F.

Who asked this joker11 Oct 2016 6:40 a.m. PST

1 out of 10. I have Fire and Fury, Bloody Big Battles and On to Richmond. No reason to mess with perfection.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2016 6:56 a.m. PST

Only if they came with pre-painted armies!

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2016 7:11 a.m. PST

I'm with ChrisBBB: the investment is much more than the simple cost of the 'new' ruleset.

That said, if feedback here or on other sites is extremely positive than I will probably make the purchase.

The last 'new' ACW ruleset I purchased was 'Across A Deadly Field'; it was not what I expected and sold it here on the Marketplace.

ACWBill11 Oct 2016 7:12 a.m. PST

I am always interested in seeing the motivation behind new rules. Often, they are interesting and sometimes even innovative. New rules are often accompanied by new concepts I have not considered. An example is Altar of Freedom, which I found rather clever and innovative in some of the rules and terrain concepts introduced in those rules. That being said, I am very happy with F & F and will not change course at this stage in my gaming life. It is like a second language to me.

B

Ottoathome11 Oct 2016 7:31 a.m. PST

None whatsoever.

I already have a set of rules I like perfectly well. We have fun games with it and I am entirely satisfied. So's everyone else in my group.

I wrote them myself so there's no wonder I like them. They are one single sheet, both sides.

22ndFoot11 Oct 2016 8:03 a.m. PST

Generally not at all – my 15mm ACW collection has languished for many years for want of a set of rules that I like – but I am very interested in the upcoming Pickett's Charge set by Dave Brown. I may yet blow the dust off the lead.

kabrank11 Oct 2016 8:11 a.m. PST

Interested if I liked another set by the Author or have some contact with the Author.

Looking forward to Dave Brown's new set

AussieAndy11 Oct 2016 8:30 a.m. PST

I'm happy with F & F and RF& F, so it would have to be something pretty interesting to make me buy a new set of rules. I have been disappointed too many times previously to rush in and buy new rules just for the sake of it.

marshalGreg11 Oct 2016 8:39 a.m. PST

I am not!
It is going the path of Napoleonic s – which has killed the gaming.
There is such thing as too much!
MG

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2016 8:48 a.m. PST

Not really, although I did buy the Glory Hallelujah supplement to Black Powder

F & F works great for me

John Thomas811 Oct 2016 10:06 a.m. PST

I'm hooked on They Couldn't Hit An Elephant, but I'll be grabbing a copy of Pickett's Charge when it becomes available.

Ceterman11 Oct 2016 10:38 a.m. PST

Still play On To Richmond!

Old Pete11 Oct 2016 11:21 a.m. PST

I have enough sets of rules including my own that cover from skirmish to refighting battles like Gettysburg. Just happy with what I have.

Trajanus11 Oct 2016 11:30 a.m. PST

It is going the path of Napoleonic s – which has killed the gaming.

What path is that?

raylev311 Oct 2016 11:43 a.m. PST

I'm good with what's available…no need for anything else.

coopman11 Oct 2016 11:55 a.m. PST

My interest in a new ACW rules set is probably about a 3 on a scale of 1-10.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2016 12:36 p.m. PST

I've been set since the original Rally 'round the Flag." Everything else is just a distraction.

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2016 5:25 p.m. PST

Almost completely uninterested.

I've been perfectly happy with F&F, RF&F, V&B, and one of these days I'll try out Fields of Blue and Grey (it has some really interesting ideas).

I was happy enough with Sail & Steam Navies to get rid of my other ACW naval rules, but I'm going to try out Iron & Fire too.

- Ix

cwbuff11 Oct 2016 5:34 p.m. PST

Have been playing Johnny Reb in one version or another for close to 40 years. Am happy with that level of play. Will play other rules sets at a convention and would like to see a company level game. Do not see a reason to spend more dollars on additional rule sets.

Weasel11 Oct 2016 6:02 p.m. PST

Low, mostly because ACW specifically is a tangential interest for me.

If it was a TFL or 2HW thing, I'd at least check it out though.

10mm Wargaming12 Oct 2016 3:52 a.m. PST

I'm not interested i use black powder and happy with it

Take care


Andy

Personal logo gaiusrabirius Supporting Member of TMP12 Oct 2016 7:47 a.m. PST

JRIII admirer here.
I'm still hoping the Johnny Reb community will agree upon and publish a "20th Anniversary" edition of the JRIII rules, incorporating the various clarifications and simplifications which appear to have reached consensus on the yahoo group.

Bashytubits12 Oct 2016 8:18 a.m. PST

1 it has really been done to death. I am perfectly happy with the rules currently use.

Stew art Supporting Member of TMP12 Oct 2016 11:34 a.m. PST

depends on it's play style.

for multiplayer games, I really like RFF, and will definitely pick up the new BFF.

but for 2 player / head to head, I'm still in the market. I tried Longstreet and while I liked the campaign rules the actual gameplay was less than desired, or at least not very fun for me personally. So I'm still in the market. I've picked up SP2 but have yet to try it out.

so anygame that aims more at head to head play I've have interest in.

marshalGreg12 Oct 2016 12:42 p.m. PST

" It is going the path of Napoleonic s – which has killed the gaming.
What path is that?"

There are some 25 or more Napoleonic rules out there.
There are 5 players in my area who may play NAPs, most will only play such and such rules, so 5 different rule sets in play.
Result is we very, very, infrequently play, even though I will play any, just to play.
I hope this makes "the path" better understood.

MG

PJ ONeill12 Oct 2016 1:05 p.m. PST

gaiusrabirius- As someone who worked on the JRIII "clarification document" (Yahoo group, files section), I think that is as official as it is ever going to get.
The designer has passed on and the owner of the rights- Doug Klein of BTC will probably not assemble, edit and publish something for a small, hard-core audience. I would love to see it myself, but I don't think it's going to happen.

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