"1/700 pre-predreads - new project" Topic

Here's the first couple completions from my new project:

Not quite ironclads, not quite predreads. This is part of a historical line up that was very famous. Kudos to anyone who can pick it out.

I would have to go with Chinese from the sino-japanese war

Nope. Good guess though.
But I have already done those.
TMP link

The ship at the bottom could be the HMS Inflexible, and the others could be later British pre-dreds, but I'm not sure what historical battle you would use them in.

Mark

I was thinking Santiago

Nope….. and I did not say "battle".

Japanese attempt to block Port Arthur,with two older blocking ships?

Nope. Not even war related.

There are five more ships besides these in the line-up. A pair of sisters I have yet to build, a near sister to one of these in the picture, another turret ship, and a big cruiser.

Hmm. Camperdown and Victoria?

A cigar for that man!

Yup. These are the ships in Tryon's column, less Victoria herself (and one of the Leanders in the background was in Markham's column).

Inflexible, Dreadnought, Nile, Collingwood, Amphion and Phaeton in that order in the pic.

Great work, Larry. You haven't lost your edge!!

Who makes these models?

If you scratchbuilt those, I hope you photo-documented each one. :-)

- Ix

Those are terribly nice. What sort of dimensions are they in 1/700th?

Thanks for the comments everyone. They are this big:

The Brits are all scratchbuilt.

Eventually they will have a fleet of foes….here is a start:

Marceau (center) and Cecille (top) are scratchbuilt. The rest are Yumemantu resin kits. Lest anyone ask, the kits were limited run from about 15 years ago, very rare, very expensive (around $90 USD per), and not all that great compared to other resin kits. I got these and 2-3 others for a song from a guy cleaning out his stash about 5 years ago.

Scratch-built? Amazing! You really must post step-by-step photos.

I will do so when I build Victoria later this week

If you bring those to Enfilade next year, I'll bring the seascape and shoreline. There are lots of naval gamers attending Enfilade, so maybe we could get a better game than "Both sides run at it headlong with no maneuver and no regard for tactical advantage, a big Trafalgar style melee with no regard to signalling or formation ensues, lots and lots of ships blow up and we run out of time." :-)

Have you settled on rules for this period?

- Ix

How did you make the turrets? For that matter, how do you even know what size to make the turrets? Do you have dimensions for these vessels?

I'd also like to know how you made those crows' nests on Inflexible and Dreadnought. I need to make some of those myself.

- Ix

Astonishingly cool !!

My mouth is hanging open.

How did you make the turrets? For that matter, how do you even know what size to make the turrets? Do you have dimensions for these vessels?

I have an extensive reference library, and I pull drawings and deckplans from the web when available, and shrink or grow them to scale.

The turrets are balsa disks sanded to size. To make the crows' nests I take a 3/8" or so plastic tube and cut about a 3mm length and glue that to thin sheet plastic. After the glue dries I snip it off the plastic and trim around the tube, then sand off any rough edges and viola! Crows' nest. I do the same for modern gun tubs on my 1/700 Pacific stuff.

No rules yet.

To make the crows' nests I take a 3/8" or so plastic tube and cut about a 3mm length and glue that to thin sheet plastic.

Thanks. I'll try that.

I've been looking at three sets of rules for this period:

Iron & Fire
Fire When Ready
Sail & Steam Navies

This is also the order of how much work I think it would take to make each work right for the "ironclad battleship" period (roughly 1875-1895). I'm still hoping to get some ironclad battleships on the table some time this year, but in a year I haven't made nearly as much progress as your photos above show. <grumble>

- Ix

I turn out about 1 per evening.

Very nice!

More pictures!

- Ix