| Tango01 | 29 Sep 2016 9:49 p.m. PST |
"An Amnesty International investigation has gathered horrific evidence of the repeated use of what are believed to be chemical weapons against civilians, including very young children, by Sudanese government forces in one of the most remote regions of Darfur over the past eight months. Using satellite imagery, more than 200 in-depth interviews with survivors and expert analysis of dozens of appalling images showing babies and young children with terrible injuries, the investigation indicates that at least 30 likely chemical attacks have taken place in the Jebel Marra area of Darfur since January 2016. The most recent was on 9 September 2016…."
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| Onomarchos | 30 Sep 2016 6:01 a.m. PST |
And the UN and the rest of the Western world will do absolutely nothing about it. |
 Legion 4  | 30 Sep 2016 8:24 a.m. PST |
And I guess there is no real surprise that they somehow got Chem weapons. Followed by nothing will be done by the UN, US, etc., … as Onomarchos mentioned. But then it comes to mind … what can anyone do. ? Sanctions ? Deploy UN and/or African Union troops ? Etc. ? Seems in many cases that has been done before and nothing good really came of it. Especially in light of what is going in North Africa, and many other places in the Mid East … |
| Tango01 | 30 Sep 2016 10:48 a.m. PST |
Sadly true… Amicalement
Armand |
| Onomarchos | 30 Sep 2016 6:15 p.m. PST |
Most of these attacks are coming from aerial bombing. Sudan uses SU-24, SU-25 and AN-12s to drop the weapons. Why not have the CIA pass on a few Stinger missiles to the South Sudan resistance. We have given them to everyone else. Or we could put pressure on Saudi Arabia to STOP sending millions of dollars in aid money to Omar al-Bashir. And what's wrong with sanctions? Sudan is committing crimes against humanity. |
| Charlie 12 | 30 Sep 2016 6:25 p.m. PST |
And I guess there is no real surprise that they somehow got Chem weapons. Obviously you have NO idea how easy it is to make some of these weapons. A first year chem major with a basic lab can make most of the rudimentary (but still very nasty) types with stuff you can buy off the shelf of a grocery store. You can't ban basic chemistry (or physics, for that matter), no matter how much you want to. Live with it…. |
| USAFpilot | 30 Sep 2016 7:00 p.m. PST |
There are many horrible ways to die in war. Let's not focus to closely on the method, but the evil act itself. Wether chemicals or machetes; innocents are being murdered. It's been going on since the beginning of civilization. If we are going to act in such cases, it has to be swift and decisive. But what comes afterwards? The next group of thugs just take over. Do we have the resources and more importantly the national will to be the world's policeman? So many problems in the world. Our leaders need to be wise in knowing which fights we can have a positive effect on. |
| Charlie 12 | 30 Sep 2016 7:04 p.m. PST |
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| Legion 4 | 01 Oct 2016 9:13 a.m. PST |
Obviously you have NO idea how easy it is to make some of these weapons. A first year chem major with a basic lab can make most of the rudimentary (but still very nasty) types with stuff you can buy off the shelf of a grocery store.
I'm well aware of the ease to create such WMDs. My only surprise would be that they could do it on their own without outside support. But as we see, that appears to be readily available if the price is right. You can't ban basic chemistry (or physics, for that matter), no matter how much you want to. My post said no such thing. I would not ban any legitimate science in any education system. I don't know why you'd state I alluded to such ? Live with it….
It does not matter if I live with it or not … But some in the Sudan may have no choice … Especially if they die from these chem weapons … Live with it…. some in the Sudan won't have that option, I'd imagine … |
| Rod I Robertson | 01 Oct 2016 9:33 a.m. PST |
Live with it or die from it. Two sides of the same coin minted from apathy and deference to authority. Cheers.
Rod Robertson. |
| Legion 4 | 01 Oct 2016 9:37 a.m. PST |
And what's wrong with sanctions? Sudan is committing crimes against humanity.
Sanctions take time to be effective … some in the Sudan, may not have that time, yes ? Crimes against humanity almost seem to be the norm in much of the region and those nearby. It sometimes seems common place. And nothing any one has or can do has any real effect … or so it appears … |
| Charlie 12 | 01 Oct 2016 5:12 p.m. PST |
Sanctions take time to be effective … some in the Sudan, may not have that time, yes ? Too true. And the effect of such sanctions on a nation like Sudan may not even dent the situation. Legion4- Sorry 'bout the tone of my earlier response. Caught me in particularly cranky moment. |
| Mako11 | 01 Oct 2016 6:56 p.m. PST |
Actually, if you think about it, in much of the world. I think the red pen is out of ink. |
| Lion in the Stars | 01 Oct 2016 9:13 p.m. PST |
DIY chemical weapons start with industrial chlorine, which is used to make water drinkable. |
| Legion 4 | 02 Oct 2016 12:08 p.m. PST |
Legion4- Sorry 'bout the tone of my earlier response. Caught me in particularly cranky moment.
Understand … most of the time that is my default setting … "cranky" …  |
