"British/French uniforms FIW" Topic

Is there a single source that lists the units in the FIW the colors for their uniforms? I thought I had one, but can't find it now. Would the uniforms at least be the same colors as for the AWI (with the exception of red pants for the British) or did some change? Thank you!

Some British facing colors changed during the course of the war.

"'I see you are Shirley's, I know by your lapels.'
'You lie!' says Ned Butler, 'For we are with Lascelles'
Our clothes may be changed yet we scorn the powder puff.
Come on, grenadiers, let's give them hot stuff!'"

And the French changed facings between the wars, and again during the AWI.

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That is helpful, Frederick. Thank you. I always thought the 60th was blue faced red. Weren't they still colonials in the first years of the war?

The kronoskaf website gives details of the uniform worn by the 60th. It appears they were regulars from the start: link

According to Mollo and McGregor's 'Uniforms of the Seven Years War 1756-63' an inspection report mentions that, unusually for a regiment with blue facings, they had buff coat linings (so the turnbacks would show as buff rather than the blue shown on the kronoskaf website)

My guide for Painting French Indian War British and Painting French Indian War French hope it helps.

Take care

Andy

I second Frederick's links. Used them for my stuff

"That is helpful, Frederick. Thank you. I always thought the 60th was blue faced red. Weren't they still colonials in the first years of the war?"

The 60th Royal Americans were not provincial troops. I believe the goal was to raise them in Germany and German American colonists but the Americans did not want to serve under the regulations of the British Army. Most of the troops were actually Irish conscripts who had been rejected by other British Regiments.

The unwillingness to serve in British units was also an issue with the provincial regiments who did not want to face British Army discipline and led to many issues with regards to command.

Thanks for the clarification. I knew this at one time, but I've been away from the FIW for a while.

The answer to the 60th question is rather complicated, but they were a regular unit of the line from the start (and to the finish).

The original idea was to raise a regiment of four battalions to serve almost as a foreign legion garrisoning America, but that idea was quickly overtaken by events. It had men in its ranks from all over Europe, including a good number of Irish. It had a sprinkling of Swiss and German officers, including Bouquet and Haldimand. But in the end, it really was just another regular line regiment. The Mollo reference of the inspection report is not particularly helpful as it doesn't give a date or location.

The usual look for the 60th would be red coat faced blue, not lace. The leggings changed from black gaiters to wool leggins in 1759.

There are at least two know portraits of 60th officers and perhaps one of the Light Infantry.

There were likely differences of uniform between the four battalions, and even within the same battalion, as noted in the Bouquet papers where he says his men didn't have the blue wool welted button holes on their waistcoats like the rest of the troops with Stanwix.

Here is the best look at a 60th officers uniform as displayed by the then Colonel Commandant Sir Jeffrey Amherst

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The other officer portrait is that of Sir John St. Clair who exchanged battalions at some point with Haldimand.

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The Light infantryman is featured in the Sir William Johnson portrait.

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If I were painting 60th I'd give them blue breeches, blue facings, cuffs and turnbacks. Red waistcoat. Officers with silver hat lace. It is uncertain if the officers wore silver gorgets or not.