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Druzhina24 Sep 2016 10:44 p.m. PST

I first saw this Silver Bowl with seated ruler and attendants, from Iran or Afghanistan (Ghaznavid?), 11th century, State Hermitage Museum inv. S-499, St. Petersburg in a research paper, then found it on the museum's digital site. It wasn't referred to in the paper. Does anyone known anything about this bowl? The lions seem to have Chinese influence.
Having a throne supported by animals is typical of Sassanid enthronemnet scenes. The figures wear right-over-left coats with lapels.
Similar lapels are found on a Cup with horseman, Khwarezm c.7th-8th Century, State Hermitage Museum, St. Petersburg, a Bowl with figures in coat with lapels and hanging sleeves or shawl, 10th Century, Nishapur, Eastern Iran and on Kizil cave donor figures, in coats with lapels, Tarim Basin.
Does anyone know more about the attendants hats?

Druzhina
11th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers

GurKhan25 Sep 2016 10:14 a.m. PST

I've seen it in E. Esin, "Tabari's Report on the Warfare with the Tiirgis and the Testimony of Eighth Century Central Asian Art," Central Asiatic Journal 17.1-4 (1973), dated as 7th-9th centuries.

Druzhina25 Sep 2016 11:16 p.m. PST
GurKhan26 Sep 2016 2:30 a.m. PST

So the nimbus-distribution, like the coat-lapels, probably fits better with an earlier date than C11th?

Druzhina26 Sep 2016 9:37 p.m. PST
Druzhina27 Sep 2016 9:16 p.m. PST

Emel Esin doesn't say much about the plate, it is used an example of a Turkish plate for when Tabari reports silver plates captured from the Turks in the 8th century. Emel would have been attracted by a dating of the plate to the 8th-9th century (perhaps by Pugacenkova & Rempel, 1965, who are given as the image source) so any such plate would have done as well.

Druzhina
8th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers

Druzhina29 Sep 2016 10:27 p.m. PST

I have received a couple of replies about the attendants' hats.
A hat with similarities is on a bowl with a poetic recitation, Seljuk, 1187AD, Kashan, Iran. Los Angeles County Museum of Art
Many Seljuk illustrations have people with a nimbus (with the exception of al-Sufi manuscripts)

Druzhina
Seljuk Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers

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