"Should You Tell Him?" Topic

Imagine that your opponent is moving his forces. He declares that he is moving a unit into cover. However, you can see that he has made an error, and part of the unit is still exposed.

Should you tell him?

Yes

Yes, of course.

No, not directly, you'll roll your eyes and say: I wouldn't do that if I where you

If he declares it as in, it would be unsportsmanlike to count it as out.

Yes

Yes.

If it was your opponent's intent then I would remind him or her.

If that was his intention, I would just assume they are in cover.

Just assume they are in cover.

Yes.

Announces it's in cover, it is. If there is a reason it isn't, mention it now.

Since he declared it, and I understand his intention, I'd point out that he's not in cover and needs to adjust. And, if he didn't have the movement to achieve his intend, I'd let him do over.

"If you are trying to get your unit under cover, those two stands are not."
That's all you need to say.

…or a variant of Raylev's.

Point out to him that since he declared it and you did understand his intent, allow it, but most certainly point it out to him so that he fully understands when the next case might arise.

Splitting hare's, I know, but…

Friendly Note: This doesn't HAPPEN in board wargames.

Just sayin'…

Wait until it's your turn, then point out his mistake. He disagrees and says he clearly stated he was going into cover. Proceed to argue until someone flips the table over. That's how you run a good friendly game!

No.

Exploit the situation and then control your laughter and explain his error to him.

It's only a game, after all.

+1 raylev3

I'm with Raylev3.

Iīm with everyone who doesnīt take advantage of the opponentīs error.
I donīt play cricket, but if I did that wouldnīt be it.

Andrew--hope you're not splitting those hares at the game table--sounds messy.

Unless you mean you're splitting the hare's hairs.

Better here than in France, anyway. They would "enculer les mouches". Don't want to see that!

I'd say something,and as has happened in the past a disagreement arises,we just roll a die on it. Odds yes,evens no.

Yes.

We established a table rule long ago that when you move a unit near terrain, you announce what the intent is.

"This guy moves up to the wall to hide behind the corner"

vs

"This guy moves up to the wall and peeks around the corner".

That way it is clear, even if figures or terrain gets nudged.
Takes almost every uncertainty out of the game.

If most of th eunit is in cover, I'd count them as all being covered.

As vtsaogames said.

Yes.

Your opponent needs to say "I am intending for this unit to be in cover."

If he doesn't, you need to ask "Are you intending for that unit to be in cover?, because from my vantage point it is not."

Before he finishes his move I'd tell him they are not all in cover and don't fit. Take it back or leave it, your choice.

Being honest – which probably upsets the participation ribbon crowd…

It depends.

If the situation is such that your opponent has to do something fundamentally different during their turn to get all the figures in cover (use more action points, move at a rate that gives a firing penalty, etc.), point it out and let your opponent redo the move.

Or if your intended next move would exploit that failure, tell your opponent and allow a do over.

If it is in the machs nicht category with respect to your next move, let it ride.

We will often shortcut measuring during an end game when we know what the relevant dynamics are and how they will work out against each other. WE just declare the next situation we are creating and roughly fuddle stuff around the board. Sometimes we'll do the last two turns or so without moving the minis, just rolling what the obvious sequence of tactics will give. 'Course sometimes the end game is more complex than that, or it is a desperate last gasp … gotta play that all the way out!

Yes.

Give him the benefit of the doubt. Be nice.

we encounter this all the time especially with flat topped hills- the rules determine that there is a forward slope where troops can see clearly but can equally clearly be seen, a reverse slope where they can neither see or be seen by troops on the other side, so far so good.

the problems arise with flat topped model hills not really having a defined crest where models can be "in Cover" and able to see and be seen. Instead no matter where they are they appear to be in the open. This is simply solved by stating or asking the intent of the moving player. It is very common place in our club now.

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I would tell him during my turn as i fire upon his exposed models :)

If his intent and expectation that the unit is in cover and you play "gotcha" with the wording of the rules to make his defensive bonus evaporate you are completely changing the the mood of the game. It's no longer about enjoying the story unfolding, now it's about one-upmanship.

Do you want to win on tactics or rules-lawyering?

Do you want people to think you're fun to play with or that you always win?

A good name is better than fine perfume. – Ecclesiastes 7:1

He declared he was moving into cover. It would be unsportsmanlike not to tell him that part of the unit was left out.

If he didn't declare his intent to end in cover when he moved the unit, then it is fair game.

It is a subtle difference. But I am not a mind reader, if he does not declare his intent I am not required to try and figure it out for him.

I ask about the intent. If it's to move and be in cover and the move is legal I always try to confirm the intent. The same with distances between units.

Yes, Gentlemen's game