"Sparker-inspired 9th Foot by Victrix" Topic

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GdeP

That's a gmail link. Didn't work.

Send any of us a message and we could help with this. Any TMP member would help, even if some are more techno savvy than others! (I make no claims, but happy to help, if I can!)

Hello, Deadhead,

Thanks for your suggestion. How do I send you a message?

I find this became a JPG (sorry! That's a PNG file) file on my laptop, but it won't copy and paste.

GdeP

Reply now sent via the Members thing. You now have my e mail.

Fear not. We will get there.

If you have a PNG dead easy to convert. Open as Windows Paint, then go to "Save as" but convert to JPEG on drop down at base, below picture, where it offers you choices of "Save as Type". PNG becomes JPEG or the reverse….whatever…..

Seems to have worked, into a JPEG file. But I can't "copy" and post here. Any idea of "next steps?"

GdeP

Garde de Paris

.The link does not work…at least for me.

It does work…sort of…for me but takes me to the Home page of GMail, which is "terra incognita" to me. sign up, etc.

I am struggling to get another way in.

Not complaining, just letting you know what I am seeing. I am as confused as you…

Hope you get it fixed I want to see "firing by file from the center", fascinating innovation.

Cheers,

You can't put images directly on TMP. You have to host them somewhere like a blog and then put the link to the image here.

Open the Tiny Pics website and you can use your own photos.

For instance, let's say you want to post a picture located on your PC, mobile phone, etc.
Go to an online image hosting site like this one:
tinypic.com
Select the option to browse your files and select the photo you want to post. It asks what size you want, so choose a thumbnail size. It will come out fine and not really a thumbnail size.
It offers several formats. For sites like TMP, select/click on forums and message boards' (not 'websites' for TMP). Follow the instructions, copy and paste the url directly into TMP and Bobs your uncle. You can enter your narrative and Submit.

Thanks, Condotta!

I'll work on this after work tonight. Good directions!

GdeP

P.S.: How do you keep up interest in this hobby with such a narrow interest in the period? Actually, you clicked them all!

We have a picture!

GdeP feel free to send me any more and I'll post here for you

Thanks, Liam!!

Amazing time we live in. I still remember watching the newsreels at the movie house in 1940's, with Rommel on one side and the British on the other, trying to capture Ben Ghazi. Never could figure out what Ben had done to off so many folks!

Now we have an internet, and can send messages and pictures throughout the world!

Our former member Sparker sent us information about British fire discipline several years ago, and this is an attempt to depict "firing by file from the Center."

Look at the yellow colour, follow the staff down to the bicorn of the colour officer. the two private men in the front rank which cover that officer are firing, using two different bodies.

Move left and see a private man reaching back to his bullet pouch, with his musket grounded (he should have held it at the balance so as to prime the pan first). The next figure is loading the grounded musket. the next figure holds the musket angled downward, looking for a target or preparing to fire. Then another figure firing, and repeating to the left into the 2 figures of the grenadier company.

Same repetition going to the right, but the 2 light company men on the end are not in this sequence.

I do not "base" my figures, but usually mount them 2on a block of venetian blind slat 34mm across, 1 inch deep (front to back) and 1/4 inch thick. This is a single-piece slat cut to hold the 40 figures, glued on with white glue and easy to cut off.

GdeP

Just curious to see if this copies, and pastes in to the TMP system.

Amazing!

By the way, the colours are by the Flag Dude.

GdeP

He has it licked! You can teach an old dog new tricks then…………isn't the internet just wonderful, what did we do when we etc etc?

Ray, I like the animated composition and painting. Basing on a slat is a good idea. Do you paint the slat green to match your terrain cloth, or just leave it white for contrast? Glad you now have the ability to paste in photos, which adds so much to TMP. Thanks!

Deadhead, agree, the internet can enrich our lives when used for good, like TMP sharing of ideas on our hobby.

Hello Condotta,

The picture is here thanks to Deadhead!

The white slat is for contrast in taking the picture, and also for mounting as-is in a 7-shelf curio cabinet. Just cant's see the figures otherwise!

You may see marks along the slat, 17 mm apsrt. For the British, I would cut the slat to hold two figures, so each 4-figure "company" would be two slats, each 34mm across the front, 1 inch front-to-back, and 1/4 inch thick. I mount the figures, then paint the slat green.

I have never tried to game with Victrix – or any plastics – and this method is already fragile. I am considering what one of my friends calls a "lighter," or one-piece wooden carrier into which these all would fit as shown in the picture. To form square, just pull off 4 "companies", and arrange them in a block with one stand facing out each side of the square. This would be 68mm, then 2 inches, on a side. Frankly, that may STILL be too big!

Our squares are much too big in gaming!

GdeP

GdeP, thanks to you and Deadhead for collaborating.

Fantastic looking battalion – well done GdeP!

An innocent question. In a firing line, would the musket muzzle ever drop below the horizontal?

Confess I have no idea…and I do know the suggestion about firing at the feet of the enemy, as the muzzle tends to rise on discharge….but through the rest of the firing, loading, priming, ramming (not in that order I know) sequence would the firearm be permanently moving between vertically and horizontally and never would the muzzle be below that?

I do love this idea of showing the sequence though. Inspired and works really well.

Years ago, Charles Stadden maks a fine wargame set in 30 mm of British Waterloo infantry. Oddly, they are very thin companions to the current Victrix 28mm Brits!

He did a figure standing, firing; then standing with the musket at the 45 degree; another with musket level at the waist; and finally a figure backed onto his right leg, left leg forward, and the musket straight up in what I think was a just before firing position. Left arm across the chest holding the musket ready to level and fire.

So you may very well be right, for the ball could easily roll out of the barrel when the muzzle is lowered.

I would like to have figures running forward with the musket raised as just described. It seem a very good wsy to move quickly into position without entangling other men.

1. So, fire.
2. hold musket at the balance, level or muzzle raised slightly, and reach of the cartridge.
3. Prime the pan while musket in same p;osition.
4. pour in the remaining powder and ball, ram home while musket on the ground, butt down.
5. Raise musket to the vertical as describe above, ready to "give fire."
6. Fire.

Frankly the Victrix firing arms look the most natural when lowered as though the soldier is looking for a target!

GdeP

I wish you would do more pics of this unit once based. I think the idea of showing the firing sequence is inspired.

Totally obvious…….. Obviously…… Of course……..

We have all read of squares or lines doing this. Each chap in their files is at the next stage of loading/firing……….so obvious that I am not sure I have ever seen it portrayed in a line like this. Most show "fire at will". Blaze away when you feel like it!

Only question…did they "aim" at all, in a line firing line? Much evidence that this was positively discouraged in favour of firing as many rounds as possible in a given time….because the musket was so inaccurate. OK aim low, because it will blaze back in your face and make you recoil…

Hello, Deadhead,

I do not intend to base this unit. All I ever do is paint their stands green as seen, and glue them to a slat of 1, or 2 figures, then paint that green. I have no one to game with, so these will be in our curio cabinet with the white slat as contrast so the unit can be seen among satin glassware, wooden birds, and military figures as much at 6" tall!

Back in the 1960's when we began to wargame with British 30mm Staddens, the "conventional wisdom" was that British sergeants continued to use the kurz gewekr, pike, whatever, long after other nations gave all soldiers muskets, so that the sergeant could aim at the enemy before ordering fire. Every man could aim as he did, fire, reload, and look at him again to match his position, continuing for put rounds in the enemy now screened with smoke.

Today commentators on TMP seem to think the pike was to hold troops in position, preventing their running. Can't see how many they could stop.

This certainly reinforces the idea of today's aimed fire, but also speeds up the process. Again, this suggests that my figure ready to fire with musket lowered while the soldier takes aim would not have been "proper" in the Peninsular War, or era. But I hsve no other way to represent the "get ready" before "Give Fire!"

This position works today with modern figures because our bullets will not roll out of the barrel!

I just went into the internet, typed Stadden 30mm wargame figures, and came up with a site with their figures for sale. I hope this copies into TMP, for it shows the odd figure reared back, ready to >give fire."

(I have 35 of these which comeone converted to Fusliers with bearskins, and in white breeches and black leggings – home service fire demonstration. The whole unit is about for fire except for 3 I converted to light company, firing, with conical shakos.)

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A man after my own heart then! Mine also did just sit in a cabinet until that filled. Then I bought more glass shelves, until they filled….

Now I buy plastic boxes and many of my figures sit in the attic, in the dark, (obvious advantages for painted figures though) ignored and unloved.

So share some pics of your cabinet's contents then. This firing line is very cleverly composed……