"Adeptus Titanic's any news?" Topic

Does anyone know a release date? I read it will be 8mm, but that it was not set in stone on the Bell of Lost Soles.

Check on Tactical Command … And I wouldn't post this on Warhammer 40K but 6mm Sci-fi …

I'd heard 8mm also, which would make sense. GW doesn't want people blowing the dust off old Epic and throwing 'em on the table. Too many weapons, vehicles and so on that have fallen out of the current game.

Also, I'm sure they'd rather sell more new miniatures, than revive collections of old… ;)

That said, I do fear this will swallow very large amounts of my income when it appears…

Odd. I had heard it would be in 10mm.

Tac Cmd link on topic, may be enlightening … link

On Bell of Lost Souls, they have Pics of 8mm:
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More discussion here:
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The scale will be 8mm –
They decided on this scale after 3D printing a Marine, Dread, Leman Russ, Warlord and a Mastodon in three different scales. 8mm was deemed the best as you could see the details to the point of telling different armour marks apart but didn't make the Titans too big.
8mm will make a Warlord around 6″ tall (that's what it looked like why Andy Hoare put his hands apart, don't blame me if the final model is smaller or larger…).
The models will be produced in resin by Forge World

I have several large armies already in 6mm and GW can just go and screw themselves with this.

They once again do not give a dam about their customers and increasing the size is just screwing over those of us who have old EPIC armies.

Plus resin from Forge World.

Expect to fork over lots of cash.

Plus this is more than likely just going to be another bucket of dice game.

I will pass on this.

The mini looks pretty good, from what I can see. This new stuff will never have the charm or character of the old Jes Goodwin sculpts, but I'll still give this a look.

Also, the old Titans were a bit small compared to the infantry, these might be "true scale" Titans compared to 6mm figures…

Yeah the original epic "6mm" were always closer to 8mm for the infantry anyways.

In 6mm, compatible with my old collection of Epic, they would have caught me in it. The rules would be an autobuy…

But, at 8mm it has to be a damned good game to get any of my money. I know I will like the minis, but you can spend any buck just once, and there are many gaming options out there. Chances are the game will see nothing from my money.

I'll use my Epic 6mm armies with those 8mm titans.

I hope it is in 8mm. It will be easier for me to see. I also hope it has some nice foam buildings, not just some plastic ruin sprues.

>Mithmee not sure how this is screwing you. If you don't want to buy, don't buy. If there is something you like then buy it to add to your old stuff.

"I'll use my Epic 6mm armies with those 8mm titans."

Me too, me too!

I too am bitterly opposed to scale change and have no plans to set aside my exisiting 6mm epic forces in favor of overpriced 8 or 10mm. However, I'd like to point out how the aftermarket and proxy minis that have appeared on the scene are much bigger than the original "6mm" minis and have been well received by many within the community.

Actually if you have a 6mm IG army then 8mm space marines might be better for true scale than the 6mm ones.

And of course, there's nothing stopping anyone from using the old minis with the new rules…

Mithmee not sure how this is screwing you

Well there are quite a few of us who have the old Epic figures and GW know this.

So they increase the scale slightly just to make all of the old miniatures useless for the new System.

As for the rules they have not been very good at writing them since they got rid of or chase away their best individuals.

And of course, there's nothing stopping anyone from using the old minis with the new rules…

Unless they also change the basing for them, which we do not know what the basing will be.

Could be like Flames or War or something totally different.

GW has lost my trust in them 16+ years ago.

"So they increase the scale slightly just to make all of the old miniatures useless for the new System.

As for the rules they have not been very good at writing them since they got rid of or chase away their best individuals."

So then they haven't screwed you because you can't use the old figures with the new crappy rules. They have actually saved you from playing their horrible new game that everyone but you is excited about.

Shouldn't you be thanking them?

GW has lost my trust in them 16+ years ago.

And yet here you are, still bitching… It's kind of amazing actually. The intensity and dedication to hating a company whose products you don't buy and whose games you don't play is beyond any logic I could ever begin to understand.

And changing the scale of miniatures a few mm does not make the smaller miniatures useless for a rules system. That's just ridiculous.

A basing system *might* cause some headaches for those who need to switch bases or modify their basing to suit the new system, but that certainly isn't unique to GW games.

GW has lost my trust in them 16+ years ago.

If this is the case, don't you think it is time to move on? I am not here to try to sway a nay sayer. That is your problem. Please go spread your sunshine elsewhere.

I for one am excited about Adeptus Titanicus and started this thread for a fun conversation. I purchased the original back in the day and have fond memories. I am looking forward to having fun with this set with my sons.

Please keep in mind if you don't have anything polite or positive to say, sometimes it is better not to say anything at all.

You could use any 6-10mm Sci-fi minis with any set of Epic rules. New or Old. And with all the new 6-10mm Sci-fi available today … you could any those based on cost, taste and predilections, etc., …

I would reserve my judgement until I see how they ACTUALLY scale with the old stuff. Who knows, maybe it won't be that much off.

So with any luck, the Epic miniatures market on eBay is about to get flooded.. *rubs hands together with glee*

I kinda have been looking on eBay in anticipation.

So with any luck, the Epic miniatures market on eBay is about to get flooded.

Probably the only good thing coming from this.

I need more Ork vehicles and they cost far too much.

In my world the difference between 6mm and 8mm is the width of a pencil line. The notion that 8mm is "oh so much better" than 6mm is laughable. I favor an incidious plot rendering what I have, in current parlance, "discriminated against."

"Probably the only good thing coming from this."

I mean if you discount malleman and a crapload of other people being happy it is being released, that still isn't accurate.

Was I the only one who was hoping for 15mm? I would think that the game 40k would have been wonderful in 15mm.

I think some of the miniatures made for 40k are very nice. and while I have'nt played 40k in many years, miniatures in 15mm would be awesome for other systems.

Pictors,
Save yourself the trouble of replying to it, man. That endless negative BS he churns out is never going to stop. At this points folks are just needlessly rattling his damn cage

On topic, new stompy BattleWarMechBotBorgs is always a welcome sight! :)

I thought about 15mm, but I believe that most people would play either 15mm or 28mm, not both. 15mm would almost be the sweet spot for all of GW's games. I think there is more profit in 28mm, too much to give up. Most 15mm players would not expect to pay over $1 USD per mini.

Well if GW was selling 15mm it would be way more than just $1.00 USD per figure.

Just lets wait how much they charge for these 8mm minis – I bet that some 28mm on the market will be cheaper :-P

That said – even when I will not play the game, I may be tempted to get a collection of Titans. They decidedly priced me out with that Warlord in 28mm.

Well I think those Titans just might run into the $50 USD-$75 range.

But we will wait and see.

Mithmee,

Is it that hard not to be negative? Like I asked earlier in the thread, please if you don't have anything positive to say…

Maybe I can help. Lets start a new thread just for you.

Well if your wife or gal says he looks good in this dress. Of asks if she looks fat ? She should be prepared for a negative reply.

Just say'n …

There is nothing wrong with being a gentleman, regardless if it is a he or she.

Well yes … I understand that. However … E.g. I just posted on 6mm Sci-fi board about the way we played Epic. And basically the only comment posted started out alluding to I'm illiterate. But as I said, I was not expecting a negative reply. But was not surprised … Just say'n …

Mithmee,

Is it that hard not to be negative? Like I asked earlier in the thread, please if you don't have anything positive to say…

Hmm, so posting the likely cost range for the Titans is negative?

You do know that they were selling the old Warlord Titans for just under that amount. Since these are going to be bigger a price between $50 USD – $75 USD is very likely.

That's the beauty and not so beautiful part of the internet. Everyone can post and everyone can agree and/or disagree. With those posts. Problem is if someone disagrees with you then they may take it personally …

And just to add my 2 Cents. I've been Epicing since '90. So I won't be interested in the New version. For a number of reasons. But that is my opinion. And I've learn if I say anything negative about GW, I'm labelled a heretic. And sentenced to be burned at the stake. The #1 crime to say anything negative is if you mention price. And I'm sure there are a number of reasons for that.

Okay Mithmee,

There is nothing more that I enjoy than listening to a grown man cry about the price of his toys and how he doesn't like the rules.

So here is my big boy advice to you:

First if you don't like the rules make some friends that enjoy the rules you like (especially if it allows you to win).

Second get a job to support your habit. If you cannot afford the miniatures that is your problem, not mine. By all means live within your budget, and allow the rest of us to do so as well.

I set up The Book of Grudges for you to enjoy. I am getting a kick out of it as well.

Okay Mithmee,

There is nothing more that I enjoy than listening to a grown man cry about the price of his toys and how he doesn't like the rules.

So here is my big boy advice to you:

First if you don't like the rules make some friends that enjoy the rules you like (especially if it allows you to win).

Second get a job to support your habit. If you cannot afford the miniatures that is your problem, not mine. By all means live within your budget, and allow the rest of us to do so as well.

First, off I make six figures now and that is after taxes.

Second, I already have large EPIC Armies for Eldar, Orks, Imperial Guard, Dark Angels, & Squats since like Legion I got in on EPIC back when 2nd Edition came out.

So I already have plenty of EPIC stuff.

I just know what they were selling the EPIC Titans before they stopped and if these are bigger they will not be selling them for $20 USD or less.

But as I stated above well will wait and see. But I do expect that if someone wants a decent size force they will be paying quite a bit for it.

Well, frankly I don't believe that they picked 8mm-scale (whatever that actually is) on the basis of asthetics. But then I'm a terrible cynic!

On the plus side the fact they test printed a Leeman Russ and a marine suggest they might just be thinking beyond titans. Downside, FW prices are likely to put me out of getting back into Epic. I was hoping for a box with half a dozen plastic titans without loadout options and rules? Mainly for the 'stomping on stuff' nostalgia trip.

As for using the new titans with your existing Epic collections I suspect they might not scale as well as some think. A true scale 33m Warlord (can't remember which fluff source I got that number from) is 11cm at 1:300 (~5/6mm) and 16.5cm at 1:200 (~10mm) – so 6" (~15cm) seems reasonable for 8mm-scale. So original titans are going to look small and weedy against the new, but infantry and tanks might look okay if a somewhat smaller in comparison than they did. Actually after just sticking a Brigade 6mm grav tank against a 5"+ robotech model I think they may well look weird on the table…

I don't buy the argument that changing the scale is necessary otherwise old players would never buy new the models. If this were true, why hasn't the Horus Heresy line been a huge failure? Everyone already has plenty of marines and "no one cares about using 'historically' accurate" armor, right?

I think you are right Alpha3six, people will probably buy regardless.

Patch, I do believe that I read that they are planning beyond Titans.

@Malleman
Yeah, checked the BoL posting, decidely underwhelmed now. Assuming a titan comes in at a similar price to a similarly sized FW dreadnought thats GB£30 plus a pop. I'd estimate their 'typical force' as going to cost over GB£100 and ideally I like to have a force for both sides. As much I loved Adeptus Titanicus nostalgia is only worth so much – and based on those prices even the slighty mad secondary market prices for titans don't look so bad. And thats before we get into the cost of vehicles and infantry – FW Epic offerings were too rich for my blood back in the day and can't see the new 8mm stuff being anything, but more expensive. I was expected a box set with plastics in the vain of the original and their current 40K sets. Personally I think this is going to go the way of Aeronautica.

Now was I the only one, who on first reading, went why where they comparing the size of a titan with an extinct prehistoric creature?

Hey Patch,

I understand. I am mostly interested in the Epic armies, so Two opposing Titans will do for me. I am kind of hoping that they release the Epic armies it will be in a box set (Horus Heresy). I am also hoping for some Eldar and Tyranids.

@Mithmee if you didn't use plastic glue and they are in decent condition sell me your Epic Eldar and Dark Angles. I would be doing you a favor. It would be like you throwing away the pictures of your ex, so that you could heal and move on. Remember, it isn't about the profit.

like Legion I got in on EPIC

Yes, I started with SM1, which had many good rules, etc., Some we still use.

And for the record I collect Epic :

SMs

Traitor SMs

Chaos & CSMs

Orks & Feral Orks

Eldar

Squats

Titan Legion/Ad Mech

'nids

Necron

Tau & Kroot

Plus a number of other 6mm Sci-fi races that I've added from other manufactures. Like CinC/SEM, HLS/EW, DRM, GZG, Onslaught, Microworld, Darkest Star, Old Crow, and a few others. It's a Big Galaxy, and I like a lot of Aliens.

And I recommend just for expanding your own knowledge of 6mm Sci-fi, look at some of those lines I posted. As they have a lot of new good models that could work with any version of Epic rules. Plus look at other rules out there, like The Crucible, FWC, Strike Legion, etc., …

Oh. The horror! Isn't epic a base style game. Just put the 6mm or whatever on a base that goes for 8.

If they make an 8mm Squat army with todays digital design, I'll be in to this :)

(So the likelyhood is that I won't be getting into this :( ).