DukeWacoan | 14 Sep 2016 9:17 a.m. PST |
Any thoughts on how to paint the skull caps for these figs? Leather? Colored? Etc? link |
BigRedBat | 14 Sep 2016 9:42 a.m. PST |
Leather, or coloured leather? |
Caliban | 14 Sep 2016 10:53 a.m. PST |
Some of my Iberians are wearing something similar. On a few the skull cap is very smooth, so I did some of those as metal. I used a range of white, deep red, black and leather to mix things up a little. Don't know if this helps… |
DukeWacoan | 14 Sep 2016 11:07 a.m. PST |
That's what I'm looking for. I didn't know if they were metal or leather |
Shagnasty | 14 Sep 2016 12:24 p.m. PST |
I would think leather or even fabric like those worn today. |
Sysiphus | 14 Sep 2016 2:50 p.m. PST |
Gloss black, polished leather.
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Tarantella | 14 Sep 2016 2:53 p.m. PST |
Trawling for images brought up this Scythian helmet of bronze.
Without the decoration it's straightforward and functional construction and I suspect (depending on the climate) could be worn have a fabric covering and/or "coif" worn underneath. I suspect many of the images of Egypian soldiers concealed some type of metal headgear. |
GurKhan | 15 Sep 2016 6:54 a.m. PST |
I didn't know if they were metal or leather. I don't think we have any sound information on what the Egyptian phalanx wore, so the very existence of these skullcaps is at best an educated guess. Which means, paint them how you like. To my mind, the cap worn by the second figure from the right – arching over the eyes and coming to a point over the nose, with a rolled edge and a slight central ridge – looks more like a bronze helmet than leather. |
LEGION 1950 | 15 Sep 2016 7:13 p.m. PST |
IMHO I would go with leather first and then metal. Mike Adams |
JJartist | 16 Sep 2016 7:44 a.m. PST |
I think the intent here is depict an irregular force. The Egyptians in the phalanx at Raphia had plenty of time to be outfitted in full armor… the Ptolemies had buckets of money then. Later on coffers got tighter… I can see these used as back rankers-- or as later phalanxes during rebellious periods that soon followed Raphia--- and even into Caesar's wars as part of the warring brothers and sisters armies… Still, I would have no problem using these at Raphia or Gaza a hundred years earlier as they separate the look of one phalanx from another. As for material I would go with woven or leather first. |
RelliK | 16 Sep 2016 6:04 p.m. PST |
One might think having a helmet and shield first then a matching quality armour to head gear, such as padded thorax and leather cap for example. Great minis BTW! |
DukeWacoan | 17 Sep 2016 8:19 a.m. PST |
These will be used to make up my Egyptian Phalanx at Raphia. 192 figs strong. |
Dark Fable | 17 Sep 2016 5:10 p.m. PST |
There is no evidence either pictoral or literary that Ptolemaic phalangites ever wore such skull caps, so these are probably a bit of artistic license on the part of the sculptor to give them a more distinctive 'Egyptian' look. It is most likely that the Egyptians recruited to fight as part of the phalanx at Raphia were armed and equipped much the same as their Greco-Macedonian counterparts/comrades with bronze Hellenistic type helmets. There are however, tomb paintings from the middle and late kingdom period which depict Egyptian wearing close fitting skull caps similar to those on these miniatures and they are usually white – so probably of linen or perhaps even cotton |