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Oh Bugger14 Sep 2016 8:41 a.m. PST

The first of a three part article on the Irish and the Roman Empire is now up on my blog.

There are some pics too of these lads.

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And these lads.

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If your interested in this lesser known interaction do drop by at

withob.blogspot.co.uk

vtsaogames14 Sep 2016 9:46 a.m. PST

In the midst of reading Wolf Hall and thought you were talking about Hibernians and the Pope…

Oh Bugger14 Sep 2016 9:55 a.m. PST

Yeah, thought about that just after I posted. Mantel is very good I think.

vtsaogames14 Sep 2016 1:21 p.m. PST

150 kings? My, oh my.

Mantel is excellent.

Oh Bugger14 Sep 2016 2:04 p.m. PST

She is indeed.

Yeah lots of kings but only a few over-kings. Still rules are rules.

Ivan DBA14 Sep 2016 2:14 p.m. PST

Veni vedi begorrah.

Frothers Did It And Ran Away14 Sep 2016 3:49 p.m. PST

Interesting stuff. Would you say that 1st century-ish Irish would appear basically the same as their British cousins iof the period?

Oh Bugger14 Sep 2016 4:13 p.m. PST

Glad you found it so.

I would have to say we don't know. I think there would be similarities. We don't know that much about what first century Britons were wearing either.

Trews full length or below the knee seem a safe bet, likewise shirts/tunics, cloaks of course and the ever present bling for the fortunate. There was a sort of Ancient British Duffle Coat that seems to have been prestigious so might be found in Ireland too. I seem to recall the export of some sort of Irish cloak too but the details escape me.

Mallory in his Origins of the Irish says Roman fashion made a huge impact on the Irish but gives neither detail or source. I guess he means bare legs but surely that was just a hot weather thing and probably not uncommon in Britain either. That said Rome did have a big impact in the 4th Century-so who knows.

Sorry I can't be of more help it would be good to know the answer.

Frothers Did It And Ran Away14 Sep 2016 5:10 p.m. PST

That's more than I knew!

Codsticker14 Sep 2016 6:30 p.m. PST

A great project! Very interesting.

Oh Bugger15 Sep 2016 3:41 a.m. PST

Thanks Codsticker, I'm enjoying it.

Huscarle15 Sep 2016 9:34 a.m. PST

Most interesting thumbs up
There are a few historical novels set in Ireland & Roman Britain that you may find interesting:-
A Bridge of Sand – John James
A Shadow of Gulls, & the sequel, The Crow Goddess – Patricia Finney.

Oh Bugger15 Sep 2016 10:50 a.m. PST

Whoah there Huscarle! A Bridge of Sand – John James?

I'm hoping this is the same John James who wrote Wotan, Men went to Catraeth and Not For All The Gold in Ireland.

If it is my heartfelt thanks, he is a grand historical novelist and I'd not heard of A Bridge of Sand. I'm off for an Amazon Google.

Oh Bugger15 Sep 2016 10:58 a.m. PST

And it is, bought it and many thanks again Huscarle.

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