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Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Aug 2016 8:53 a.m. PST

Who asked this joker.

Thank you, I have never seen that.
I will read it.

Never said I was a fan of Forrest, (and IMHO, he probably was responsible for it), but then again, I get very tired of folks like 138th jumping in with bs statements against people like he did to me simply because I asked a question.

donlowry30 Aug 2016 9:00 a.m. PST

Best at what?

Best army commander -- Lee (not perfect, but who is?)

Best corps commander -- Jackson (ditto)

Best division commander -- Cleburne (ditto)

Best cavalry commander -- Hampton (once he learned the ropes under Stuart)

Best cavalry raider/counter-raider -- Forrest

Best artillery commander -- Alexander (but then, who else left lots of memoirs?)

Best quartermaster -- none

Swab Jockey30 Aug 2016 9:02 a.m. PST

Patrick Cleburne, is only downfall was he spoke truth to power, and paid for it a Franklin.

Weasel30 Aug 2016 9:34 a.m. PST

Stonewall seems to have been one of the most consistent.

Lee got better press though, despite his "lol, we can definitely charge a mile into yankee fire" decision.

Blackhorse MP30 Aug 2016 10:52 a.m. PST

Army: Lee

Corps: Jackson

Division: A P Hill

John Miller30 Aug 2016 6:04 p.m. PST

Robert E. Lee

Trajanus31 Aug 2016 4:33 a.m. PST

not a wide field of choice once you get past the top end

I don't see how you come to that conclusion. General-Lee: Lt. General-Longstreet, Jackson, Taylor, Forrest and Hampton: Maj. General-Cleburne, Mahone and Gordon.

Those were the "top end" I was talking about!

Trajanus31 Aug 2016 4:34 a.m. PST

I'd back Don's list – breaking this question down by categories makes far more sense.

corzin31 Aug 2016 8:46 a.m. PST

of course if we just forget about the army command part…Hood

Cleburne186331 Aug 2016 5:07 p.m. PST

I agree Cleburne was probably one of the best, if not the best division commander in the Confederacy. Its a tough call between him, A. P. Hill and Hood at the division level.

However, I'm not sure he would have prospered at higher command. William Hardee himself, Cleburne's longest serving corp commander, said that Cleburne lacked the independent thought that is necessary for corp command. Hardee relate that Cleburne never or rarely offered opinions at command meetings, never expressed how he would handle tactical situations. He was great at following orders and figuring out the best way to accomplish his mission. Maybe the best at the division level. But let's not hold him on too high of a pedestal. Even if he is my favorite.

Liliburlero Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2016 12:21 p.m. PST

What would have happened in 1861 if Lee had accepted President Lincoln's offer (at the insistence of Winfield Scott) to command the Union army?

Lee was extremely popular due to his connection to Washington. Some considered him to be his heir. Lee's wife, Mary Custis, was Washington's great grand-daughter and his father, Light Horse Harry Lee, was a famous cavalry officer who was one of Washington's favorites. As I said, a most interesting case of "What if?"

snurl103 Sep 2016 3:45 a.m. PST

Jackson.

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