"The Sunne in Splendour" Topic
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| jaxenro | 28 Aug 2016 7:50 p.m. PST |
Just read this based on some good reviews here it wasn't bad gave a good feel for the double dealing of the period although I am not buying much of what she is selling. I did find two thoughts interesting: First after being named Lord protector Gloucester needed to move against the Woodeville's as they were moving against him by taking control of the boy King and Second once having put Edward V's favorite uncle Lord Rivers to death he could either depose Edward V or face revenge when the boy reached maturity In other words he needed to do what he did to stay alive even if it didn't work out for him in the end |
| Vigilant | 29 Aug 2016 3:12 a.m. PST |
Richard III, no better or worse than any other medieval king. The really interesting thing is the effect on the world that his defeat at Bosworth had. If he had won there would have been no Tudor, no reformation of the religion, possibly no English expansion westwards to the new world and therefore no USA as we now know it. Bosworth, possibly the most decisive battle in world history – discuss. |
| jaxenro | 29 Aug 2016 3:25 a.m. PST |
So many if's. If one of Henry VIII's male children by Katherine lived we could probably say the same at least at that time. Ann Boleyn would probably be just a footnote in a list of royal mistresses I think there were forces for reformation in England anyway and it would have come eventually just not as suddenly or with such governmental approval |
| parrskool | 29 Aug 2016 4:13 a.m. PST |
Bosworth…. 576 years ago…. too soon to forget ! |
| MajorB | 29 Aug 2016 4:50 a.m. PST |
Bosworth…. 576 years ago…. too soon to forget ! Um … no. It's actually only 531 years ago. |
| Hafen von Schlockenberg | 29 Aug 2016 6:48 a.m. PST |
What is she "selling",BTW? I have a copy,along with several of her others,but have read only the one on Simon de Montfort. Could you expand a little on your reactions? |
| Vigilant | 29 Aug 2016 7:10 a.m. PST |
Long time since I read the book but if I remember correctly she is pro-Richard rather than the traditional Shakespeare evil villain view. |
| jaxenro | 29 Aug 2016 8:46 a.m. PST |
Very pro Richard,not that I mind that. But he is a little too good in a way. Virtuous, faithful to his wife, pledged to his nephews until he finds out, against his will, about Edward IV's pre existing marriage Both sides (maybe all sides as the WotR had more sides than a ten sides die) put out propaganda just seems like she accepted all of Richards and dismissed any against him |
| parrskool | 30 Aug 2016 6:35 a.m. PST |
I still like The Daughter of Time (by Joesphine tey) good analysis via a short novel… |
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