"Question about Wargames Foundry 8 Figure packs" Topic

Bit of a strange question but did all of the Foundry packs contain 8 figures once upon a time? I'm particularly looking at the Greek, Macedonian and Caesarian Roman command packs and the Argonauts and Greek hero ranges.

If so, does anyone know where I'd be able to find pictures of the figures which are 'missing' from the current packs? Does anyone have any old catalogues?

Yes they used to be 8 per pack. I have some 7th Cavalry packs like that.

No. Command packs contain(ed) less figures; anywhere from 4-7 depending on the range. I believe some of the Roman packs were 7 figure packs as well, but I don't have the catalog in front of me. I think the hero packs had around five figures. Most rank and file was in 8 figure packs, but some were 7, and IIRC, a few were in 10 figure packs (something like 10 marching Nap figures).

I believe there were even some 12 fig EIR packs (all identical) once. Some Late Romans came in packs of 10 identical (and 4 cavalry to a pack too).

Hi Rivers, I think they had a variable number of minis; some Caesarian Roman packs had 6, for example. The old Foundry catalogue would be the best guide.

I'm not aware that there are any missing figures; pretty sure they are all available. However there were were a few variants produced that never made the main packs but were given away as freebies, some Saleh legionaries, for example, with bare heads. These are unlikely to surface.

12 figure EIR and Successor pike packs were great value, back in the day!

Many poses were omitted when Foundry reduced the number of figures per pack to a standard six for historical ranges. I'm thinking particularly of the Darkest Africa and Old West ranges, which I know best, but the downsizing was applied across all ranges at the time.

A few years ago the company started trying to reconstruct its ranges as originally packaged, with the help of customers with old catalogues. I don't know how successful this effort was.

I have the old illustrated Foundry
catalogue. All of the foot figures were 8 to a pack. But in most packs they are all the same pose but with various heads.

Cavalry packs were all (except the newer Vikings, newer Normans, newer Saxons and Caesarian wars armies)4 riders and horses to a pack. I'm not sure if the packs are just supplied now with a random assortment of three of the four possible choices…imagine so

oh , and also the World of the Greeks cavalry packs only came with 3 riders and horses. I'll check my old catalogue and see about the packs you were asking about…Greeks, Caesars, Macedonians and Argonauts

But in most packs they are all the same pose but with various heads.

The minis in the late 90's eight-packs were most often all different.

In The Foundry Compendium & Painting Guide (ca. 2001?) the pack-shrinkage is just beginning.

And before that figures came in pack of 10 infantry and 4 cavalry, for those old enough to remember when ranges like the Imperial Romans first went into blister packs. Funny enough, I've bought figures recently that show 6 figs to a pack only to discover they have 8 when they arrive. Very random, but still lovely figures, even if the casting quality and flash seems to have got worse in recent years

The cast quality and flash always seemed fine to me when I was still buying them, then they dropped the buy 16 get cant remember how many free in the same range, so I stopped buying from them and just see what comes up on ebay to decide my next projects.
Otherwise good figures, always have to remember to check who the sculpter was, as they seemed to have two sizes depending on as I said who sculpted them originally.

Thanks very much for the great response chaps. I remember my first purchases of historical minis being from Foundry and receiving their catalogue with the order. Would love to know if there are any missing bits and pieces from the current ranges so I can try and pick them up.

I think I read somewhere they are bringing back all the stuff they didn't have on the website, just ask them what you're looking for if its one of those ranges no longer in use, they will send you pictures to chose from.

When I did my Persians early this year I emailed them and foundry sent me pack choices that were not on the website, now it may take slightly longer to get as they aren't mainstream stuff.

Actually they have the extra stuff up on a separate page, here's the link.
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The historical packs all used to have 8 figures per pack, but the Argonaut packs always had 5 per pack

So here's the 64,000 GBP question -- Do the "World of the Greeks" and the "Trojan Wars" (Foundry's Mycenaeans & Trojans -- not Casting Room!!) now "again" contain eight (8) figures, except where noted in the "picture as description" on the website?

From what I've seen and purchased from the World of the Greeks and Macedonian ranges, the normal infantry packs do contain 8 figures. The others (command and the like) contain the miniatures shown on the site but I have had a couple which have come with extra figures which aren't shown in the packs on the sit.

Those Casting Room Persians look quite nice – does anyone know who sculpted them?

Yes most packs contain 8 foot or 3 mounted, command packs vary a little as do 'some ' ranges notably casting room stuff.
But I think it says all that on the website when you order each item, I believe it has the X amount per pack bit somewhere on the page.

Foundry packs have been variable for me. I got 8 infantry figures per pack for their FPW ranges when I ordered Bavarian infantry advancing. I got three figures per pack when I ordered FPW French and Prussian Cuirassiers. I got seven figures per pack when I ordered a bunch of 28mm Foundry Masai Warriors. The artillery packs I've ordered for FPW ranges had six figures per pack. Along with FPW infantry command…

Blake

Rivers, the casting room Persians were sculpted by Martin Buck. If you go onto his Facebook page "the miniature world of Martin Buck" he has posted loads of greens. They fit in well with the foundry range sculpted by Steve Saleh. Many of the greens have not yet been released by foundry (most of the Persian allies)

I have a painted Persian army made up of casting room and foundry Saleh, I love them.

The Masai were originally in seven-figure packs; justified by their relative sculpting complexity compared to the other DA tribal types, as I recall the Foundry explanation.

Emperorbaz..great link re those Martin Buck Persians….amazed they have not all been released.

I did a Persian army with both Steve Salahi and Martin Bucks figures, they work great together, highly recommend. Tried some Sgt Major miniatures to mix in as well, wasn't that impressed with them, the riders had no necks and a little blocky.
Some of those packs were 7's or even 6's I think but could be mistaken, it's been a while. Email foundry direct and ask depending on what toy go for.

Thanks for the link to Martin Buck's page – I love those allies, I've emailed Foundry to ask if they are planning to release them so fingers crossed.

I'm going to a show Foundry are attending on Saturday so might pick up a few of the Persians to use as Seleucid levies.

I was fortunate enough to be able to pop into the foundry shop yesterday to pick up a few bits and pieces. The Casting Room Persians are very good and match up nicely with the Saleh Persians and Greek/Macedonian ranges.

I also asked about the other Martin Buck sculpts and they said that they are going to look into it as they may be split between several moulds or it may be that moulds were never made for them.

I ran into Foundry today and (by chance) I also asked about the Persians- they said they would have another look for more Persian greens and the moulds. I'll report back if they find more.

They were looking to see the images on Martin's facebook to see what they looking for. Looks like they on the case. Hope they are not lost.

It's funny how many of us are on the same case! :-)

They must still have so much to find in the storeroom. There was also a Sumerian (no crew) done by Perrys that vanished.

Fingers crossed these see production at some point as they are lovely looking sculpts. Hopefully the renewed interest will spur things along!

Wow…. Some of those WF Sumerian chariots are up for sale on US ebay. Tim Haslams work with Foundry and Bears Den crew added.