Wolfhag | 16 Aug 2016 6:46 p.m. PST |
We are doing a game scenario of the storming of Chapultepec and want to look at some rules easy enough to use at a convention. They should include going over the walls and close combat. Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks, Wolfhag |
Extra Crispy | 16 Aug 2016 6:59 p.m. PST |
There was a set designed for the Alamo called "Houston we Have A Problem" based on another game from The Courier. It would be a cinch to adapt to your scenario. Drop me a line and I'll send you a copy, I'm pretty sure I have them kicking around. mark at scalecreep dot com |
rmaker | 16 Aug 2016 8:25 p.m. PST |
You might check Buck Surdu's Santa Anna Rules. |
McKinstry | 16 Aug 2016 9:00 p.m. PST |
There is a Mexican-American War adaptation of Fire and Fury floating around in playtest form I believe. |
advocate | 16 Aug 2016 11:29 p.m. PST |
Extra Crispy, I could almost get into the period just to use the pun! |
PaulCollins | 17 Aug 2016 6:56 a.m. PST |
The Courier had a couple of good sets when this was their theme. Chapultepec was in Vol. 8, no. 6 and Manifest Destiny was in Vol.9, no. 3. Both these magazines are a available for download on Wargamesvault. |
Ragbones | 17 Aug 2016 8:00 a.m. PST |
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Stosstruppen | 17 Aug 2016 3:11 p.m. PST |
Regimental Fire & Fury will work. There are revised charts on their website. |
epturner | 17 Aug 2016 3:29 p.m. PST |
The Sword And The Flame. It just works. Eric |
Shagnasty | 17 Aug 2016 4:17 p.m. PST |
Another recommendation for "Santa Ana Rules." Sonds good for the scale of Chapultepac. |
ACWBill | 18 Aug 2016 6:31 a.m. PST |
I have used F & F Regimental MAW variant. If you check the F & F site below, the charts should all be there. link B |
Yellow Admiral | 18 Aug 2016 12:38 p.m. PST |
Since you live in my region, I assume you'll be doing this at the local conventions (Kublacon, Pacificon, various ConQuest cons, etc.). For the local convention crowd, TSATF would be a good choice (even with modifications) because it's super simple and there are lots of gamers already familiar with the concepts. Santa Ana Rules would probably be a fine second choice, since they are written specifically for that war, but some of the concepts will be new to most of your players. Both of these sets use indivdually based figures gathered into units for a "mass skirmish" feel, which is probably the best way to play a small battle in dense terrain like Chapultepec, and that format has the greatest appeal to local convention gamers. It would be pretty easy to adapt Battles for Empire 2, but it's not really written for the period. Given the scale of the affair, I disagree that larger scale games geared for pitched battles (RF&F, original F&F, Rank & File, Field of Battle, Johnny Reb, etc.) would be a good choice. Chapultepec was a small battle and at a platoon per stand (40-50 men), the defenders would be represented by a handful of stands organized in 1-3 tiny units. Not much of a game. I recommend against RF&F in particular for local convention gamers. I like RF&F a lot, and I've run and played in several RF&F games at local conventions, but it can be hard to get enough players. It's generally seen as "too complicated" and just not a broadly popular game in this region. - Ix |
Wolfhag | 18 Aug 2016 1:00 p.m. PST |
Hey guys, thanks for the help and suggestions. Mark, I sent you an e-mail. Thanks for the link ACWBill, I downloaded everything. Yellow Admiral, yes we'll be at Pacificon doing the game on Saturday. We should get together. I guess you could say the game is like a Hollywood movie "based on a true story" and not a true historic simulation. The games we do at conventions are more for entertainment and getting into the period and not a painful history lesson. Wolfhag |
Yellow Admiral | 18 Aug 2016 10:20 p.m. PST |
I guess you could say the game is like a Hollywood movie "based on a true story" and not a true historic simulation. The games we do at conventions are more for entertainment and getting into the period and not a painful history lesson. In that case, definitely TSATF. :-) - Ix |