Pedrobear | 16 Aug 2016 4:58 a.m. PST |
So a few guys in my gaming group and I are fans of the series and we used to joke about how we would totally go see Giorgio Tsoukalos if he ever came to town, then last week our cable TV provider offered ten pairs of passes to a meet-and-greet session to see him (and two other History Channel 'celebrities). Two of us entered the contest/draw to see Giorgio, and we might have been the only ones because we both won! So now I am going to meet Mr Ancient Aliens and his hair on Thursday, and maybe pitch him the idea of writing a book for Osprey. Is such a thing even possible? Ancient Astronaut theorists say: yes! |
Dynaman8789 | 16 Aug 2016 5:34 a.m. PST |
I don't think it is the same guy but ask him if the aliens really do like Strawberry ice cream. |
Ceterman | 16 Aug 2016 5:47 a.m. PST |
Killer! I really like the show & Giorgio. I think it's just as plausible as the other theories. Granted, I don't agree with EVERYTHING being Aliens behind it, but a lot of it makes perfect sense to me… Have fun & tell him "Keep up the good work!" |
Zargon | 16 Aug 2016 5:55 a.m. PST |
Who? This guy? Yes Aliens do exist. That guy from History Channel is his bro.
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MacrossMartin | 16 Aug 2016 5:59 a.m. PST |
Punch him in the nose from me. I used to giggle at his ridiculous show, but have since learned that some of the crank theories and pseudo-archeology that it features are harming real archeology. Scholars wasting their time debunking the nonsense, resources being diverted from important work, and even real archeology sites being damaged in the search for 'proof' of sensationalist stories. The 'mother of all pyramids' in Bosnia (it's actually a natural hill) being the prime example – the nut who's claiming this hill is a 12,000 year-old giant step pyramid is damaging medieval remains on the same hill. Apparently he's reshaping the hill as he digs, to make it look more like a pyramid. In short, he's a fraud. 'Ancient Aliens' featured his work, presenting it as fact. I like 'chariots of the gods' as a fictional concept. 'Pyramids of Mars' is one of my all-time favourite Doctor Who serials. I was thinking of doing a fleet of Anunnaki ships for Firestorm Armada. But when fantasy damages reality, I think it's going a bit too far… And in any case, Leonard Nimoy did it all first, and better, in 'In Search Of' :) |
RavenscraftCybernetics | 16 Aug 2016 6:13 a.m. PST |
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Pedrobear | 16 Aug 2016 6:19 a.m. PST |
I am sorry to hear about the hill in Bosnia, but to be fair the guy was making those claims years before the TV programme started. Also, if it wasn't for the show, maybe you and I would never have heard about the 'pyramid' and bothered to find out more about it (and a whole lot of interesting sites, scientific discoveries, and historical events) and learn the truth. As for scientists wasting time debunking pseudoscience instead of doing science, that seems to come with the territory these days: just look at the number of science bloggers and blogging doctors out there. It's the medium; Daniken simply couldn't do the kind of damage even though he is a pioneer and published books – Giorgio saw the opportunity provided by History Channel and managed to make himself stand head (teehee) and shoulders above the other talking heads in the show. I may not believe in anything he says on the show, but I admire how he marketed himself so successfully. Plus it's not every day you get to shake hands with a meme. :) |
Pedrobear | 16 Aug 2016 6:20 a.m. PST |
"pics or it didnt happen!" Dude, like you will even know I am the guy in a pic with him if I posted one. ;) |
Ivan DBA | 16 Aug 2016 6:25 a.m. PST |
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WarWizard | 16 Aug 2016 6:35 a.m. PST |
I watch the show occasionally for entertainment value. My thoughts are, it seems everything that is unexplained gets "painted" with the Ancient Aliens brush. When you meet him can you ask him if he could possibly be wrong and some of these ancient events and structures were the result of human effort and ingenuity? Although I think he has some valid points, I find it very hard to believe a lot of the theories. I do like the show overall. Of course I also like Twilight Zone reruns. Too bad Rod Serling never got to do an Osprey book. |
Pedrobear | 16 Aug 2016 6:55 a.m. PST |
For the record I don't believe in any of the 'ancient astronaut' theories, but as a gamer I can't help but want to see a unified 'fluff' that ties all their wild speculations together. What is the relationship between the Insectoid people and the Reptilian people? Are the Greys living or robotic, or clones, or hybrids? When exactly did the aliens visit? Was there one contact, or multiple contacts over time? Did they travel across space? "Portals"? Are the portals underwater? In caves? In space? They generate so much… fluff to pad the series to 9 seasons, but there is no central unifying narrative. Everything is so messy… |
Pedrobear | 16 Aug 2016 6:57 a.m. PST |
My real question to him is: If we could not have figured out all the technology on our own, then how did the aliens do so? His answer will probably be: They did not – they were visited by other, even more ancient aliens! |
The Beast Rampant | 16 Aug 2016 7:03 a.m. PST |
Who? This guy? Yes Aliens do exist. That guy from History Channel is his bro. Yeah, the Ancient Aliens guy WISHES he was Londo. |
Hal Thinglum | 16 Aug 2016 7:08 a.m. PST |
WOW! Giorgio is my hero! He has GREAT hair! You sure are lucky! I saw where there will be an Ancient Aliens Convention this fall. I believe everything he says….. |
Winston Smith | 16 Aug 2016 7:54 a.m. PST |
Could it be that…..that's his real hair? |
Dynaman8789 | 16 Aug 2016 8:05 a.m. PST |
Oh, that guy up there. Now that you reminded me who he is, and his hairdo, I truly do believe in space aliens. |
Zargon | 16 Aug 2016 8:20 a.m. PST |
Bosnians alien theorist + sudo stepped pyramids + actually ruining real ancient monuments = polisher. These guys… |
avidgamer | 16 Aug 2016 8:28 a.m. PST |
"So now I am going to meet Mr Ancient Aliens" Errrrr… why?! All that stuff is a bunch of crap. |
javelin98 | 16 Aug 2016 9:02 a.m. PST |
Here's someone who knows about aliens:
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Perris0707 | 16 Aug 2016 6:51 p.m. PST |
Watch the show and play this game with friends. Every time the narrator says this phrase "Ancient Astronaut theorists say: yes!" you must drink. |
Henry Martini | 16 Aug 2016 7:16 p.m. PST |
Former NASA astronaut Flip Overberger can tell you all you need to know in his classic work 'Mayans and Ancient Aliens on Mars: the Truth' (not to be confused with rival title 'Mayans and Ancient Aliens on Mars: the Facts'). |
Kevin C | 16 Aug 2016 7:25 p.m. PST |
When my son was a little baby we had trouble keeping his hair brushed down, so for his first Halloween we bought a brown suit, painted a mustache an beard on him and took him trick or treating as the Ancient Alien theorist guy. Unfortunately, everyone thought we had him made up like a hobo. |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 16 Aug 2016 9:27 p.m. PST |
If scholars and scientists took the time needed to refute all the nonsense,no work would get done. Most try to ignore the drivel and get on with it. Of course,that tends to raise cries of "Sče,they won't debate us! That proves we're right!" But,as stated above,it's been going on for a long time. And shows no signs of slowing. Last I checked, 25% of Russians believed the sun goes around the earth. On the bright side,only 20% of Americans do. USA! USA! |
MacrossMartin | 17 Aug 2016 3:46 a.m. PST |
Pedro – I'll willingly concede your point about the show raising my awareness of the issue of false archeology, but I'm 100% certain that wasn't their intention! I smile at the thought that there's one episode which, basically, synopses von Daniken's theories and work, during which he encourages his audience to not believe what they are told, and investigate for themselves. He was actually calling for them to question conventional archeological wisdom, but seemed to forget that an inquiring mind can look both ways before crossing the street… Perris – Drink EVERY time the narrator says that? I think you'd better call an ambulance after a couple of episodes! |
Ceterman | 17 Aug 2016 7:52 a.m. PST |
Go and have a good time. I wish I could. Just like those other theories out there. |
Apache 6 | 17 Aug 2016 9:38 a.m. PST |
His wife is hot, and at least 20 years younger then him. He's ridiculous, but maybe it works for him. |
etotheipi | 17 Aug 2016 10:19 a.m. PST |
Did you ever wonder if people like that have no actual beliefs like the onese they espouse, but go home at night and say, "Wow! I can't believe I get paid to do this! I used to get detention in school when I did it!" |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 17 Aug 2016 2:00 p.m. PST |
Perris,sounds like a good replacement for the "Dammit,Chloe,there's no time!" game. |
Ironwolf | 17 Aug 2016 11:43 p.m. PST |
Ancient Theorist base their theories from Dead Sea scrolls, Book of Enoch, Mayan Script, Sanskrit, Egyptian hieroglyphs and Sumerian Script. Well over 5000 years of documentation. Christians, Jews, and Muslims base their theories from Dead Sea scrolls, Hebrew/Old Testament Bible, and Quaran. At most 3000 years of documentation. All of the above talk about multiple gods. These same gods coming down from the sky and interacting with humans. Angels being in physical form and interacting with humans. Cities in the sky, gods flying through the air in chariots. The list goes on and on. Some people interpret these writings to mean some form of religious deity having contact with us. Other people interpret these writings to mean some advanced civilization having contact with us. Honestly all the above is a theory based on their faith in the interpretation of ancient forms of writing. It boggles my mind how some people can claim their theory is more valid than anyone else's. hahahaha ooohhh wait, don't let me forget Darwin's Theory of evolution. Modern form of humans evolved around 200,000 years ago. Civilization as we know it has been around for about 6000 years. Anyone know of any new homo sapiens evolving from something else since then??? |
Pedrobear | 18 Aug 2016 6:52 a.m. PST |
Here's the pic! :)
And the post: link |
Ceterman | 18 Aug 2016 9:17 a.m. PST |
IRONWOLF… THANK YOU! You are absolutely correct. Except civilization has been around for much longer than 6,000 years, more like 15 or 20,000. Just look at Gobekli Tepe. |
Ceterman | 18 Aug 2016 9:19 a.m. PST |
Pedrobear, Thanks for the post, very cool! |
Ironwolf | 18 Aug 2016 1:14 p.m. PST |
Ceterman, you are very correct. I should have been more clear in my post. The 6000 year mark was meant as about as far back most people have any knowledge about. Pedrobear, good post but can you explain a bit more about the pin?? I'm not familiar with the pin he gave away? Also did he seem interested in the Osprey book idea? Thanky! |
javelin98 | 18 Aug 2016 2:11 p.m. PST |
Personally, I believe that intelligent life out there is not only possible or probably, but guaranteed. Even if only 1 out of every million planets hosts life, if the universe is truly infinite, then it *must* be teeming with sapient life. Whether they routinely visit Earth and anal-probe our cows whilst making cool crop circles, no, I don't think that's possible. The interstellar distances are just too great. |
Pedrobear | 18 Aug 2016 5:29 p.m. PST |
Ironwolf, The pin is a pre-Columbian figurine that mainstream archaeologists believe depict a fish but which ancient astronaut theorists believe depict an alien flying machine. link In his show "In Search of Aliens" Giorgio would give it to people he interviewed. You can buy it for $20 USD on his website, but the point was to receive it from Giorgio himself. ;) He seemed interested in the Osprey idea, but whether he was just being polite or will genuinely consider writing for them, I don't know. |
Ironwolf | 18 Aug 2016 6:04 p.m. PST |
Pedrobear, Once I read your explanation and saw the picture I knew what you were meaning. Agree it would be kewl to get one from Giorgio. It would be great if he did a Osprey book. Javeline98, I agree with you 99.9%. I'm leaving that tenth of a percent open (or hoping) its aliens doing the anal probing on the cows and not some weirdo humans. lol |
javelin98 | 19 Aug 2016 8:56 a.m. PST |
Thanks, Ironwolf! In the meantime, this guy has a different take on the whole matter:
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Weasel | 20 Aug 2016 6:02 p.m. PST |
Its fun to get a chance to meet a famous guy and he's definitely quite a character. No need to get in a big fight. |
Legion 4 | 21 Aug 2016 10:40 a.m. PST |
I do enjoy watching Ancient Aliens shows on the History Channel. But I think it should be on Sy-Fy. It is very interesting and entertaining to me as I like history and sci-fi. And some may make fun of him, etc., like they did of Von Danikan. But both are laughing all the way to the bank. And regardless most adults should be able to make their own decisions about most things. But as we know that may not always be the case. However, as already alluded to, it would be a statistical improvability that we are the only life in galaxy … let alone the only "intelligent" life. And if the "ETs" pick up our TV signals etc., all they'd have to is watch the daily news feeds. To realized, this blue 3rd rock from the Sun does not harbor intelligent life. They'd see what we do to each other, etc., so they may just keep going. But in reality we may never know for sure unless they land on the WH Lawn and say, "Take me to your leader." … In the mean time everybody should be free to believe like the want to. Unless like Daesh, AQ, etc., they will kill you just not for believing as they do. Let's hope there are not any aliens out there that think the same way ! |
etotheipi | 22 Aug 2016 7:22 a.m. PST |
as already alluded to, it would be a statistical improvability that we are the only life in galaxy Nah. The purpose of the Drake Equation was not to provide a number result. It was proposed so that the coefficients would drive the discussion in the beginnings of SETI. link Even if you accept the above really gross approximations we can currently make for coefficient two and three, we have absolutely no idea what the odds are. I've always thought that one of the more interesting discussions has been about fc, the fraction of civilizations revealing their existence via signal release into space. Some interesting questions are: – What constitutes a signal? – Why do we think we could recognize a truly alien signal? – What is the difference between intent and nature? |
Legion 4 | 22 Aug 2016 1:09 p.m. PST |
Well don't say that kind of stuff to the Little Grays. That often land/park in my backyard. It may hurt their [little] feelings. And they are already sensitive about being short and skinny, for heavens sake ! |
etotheipi | 22 Aug 2016 2:24 p.m. PST |
I had a friend in high school whose name was Little. She married a guy named Grayman. I couldn't convince her to hyphenate her name. |
Legion 4 | 23 Aug 2016 1:11 p.m. PST |
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