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Tango0115 Aug 2016 3:38 p.m. PST

Cool!

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More here
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Amicalement
Armand

Jabsen Krause15 Aug 2016 4:06 p.m. PST

Splendid indeed! Alle Achtung! What on earth happened to the horses cart? Sadly, the budget for our next big game does not have the budget for so many horses. Nevertheless, the following, contemporary two day game will have some beautiful horses and carriages. Castles too! (smile)

Leo Zanza16 Aug 2016 3:21 a.m. PST

Nice find, thx!

KniazSuvorov16 Aug 2016 4:39 a.m. PST

Nice terrain, and I love those Bavarian uniforms.

Nice share, Armand

von Winterfeldt16 Aug 2016 4:54 a.m. PST

tango look also at

TMP link


which you posted months ago

AuvergneWargamer16 Aug 2016 5:14 a.m. PST

Bonjour,

I enjoyed this a lot!

I'm a big Bavarian fan and need to get some more limbers painted too.

Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,

Paul

archiduque16 Aug 2016 8:49 a.m. PST

Fantastic!!!

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2016 10:22 a.m. PST

Terrific photography as well. Low angle and beautifully lit with depth of focus too.

Never mind whether Bavarians did come in cornflower blue or much darker. The evidence we now learn is the latter, but the glamour is the former!

All that is missing is the Gardes d'Honneur of La Garde. was it not one of the few occasions when they did actually put in an appearance and do something? The Light cavalry of the Garde look terrific

Tango0116 Aug 2016 10:42 a.m. PST

Happy you enjoyed it my friends!. (smile)

Maybe you confused the Gardes d'Honneur with the Gerdarmerie de la Garde?… The first ones have fought a lot at Leipzig… the second one only in a few ocations and in Hannau Napoleon himself decided to used them because of the murmur of the rest of the Guard Cavalry to this respect…

Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2016 1:55 p.m. PST

No, Hanau was probably the Gardes d'Honneur finest hour. Charged Bavarian cavalry and may have got the Horse Grenadiers out of trouble.

Think you might have got that one wrong, just for once mind you (grin)

Tango0117 Aug 2016 10:42 a.m. PST

"…Leading the Grande Armee's retreat from Leipzig's lost battle, MacDonald's and Victor's battered corps, possible 7,000 weary soldiers, have come out into open country to find Wrede's 43,000 Bavarians, Austrians and Cossacks across their road. Under heavy attack, the French are forced back into the woods where they barely hold their ground in desperate fighting.'

'But moving up behind them comes Napoleon with the cavalry and artillery of his Guard and his Old Guard infantry.'

'While Drouot of the artillery scouts out a side road that will bring his firty-eight 12-pounders-Napoleon's 'pretty girls'-into a position from which he can rake Wrede's lines, the Emperor sends in two battalions of Guard chasseurs a pied to clear the way for him. They surge forward, light infantry style at the run in open order, loading their muskets as they came, each man seeking to be the first to get his bayonet into a Bavarian.'

'To Wrede, the sight of their bearskin caps is a nerve-wrenching omen of defeat. He had thought Napoleon had taken a road farther north, that he had only demoralized figitives to deal with-and here, suddenly, is the dread 'Alte Kaisergarde,' which means that its terrible Emperor now confronts him!'

'Drouot's guns open fire, sweeping the field. Wrede throws the mass of his cavalry against them, but canister fire from that line of 12-pounders smashes his charge. The few troopers that survive to get among them are bayoneted by tough Old Guard cannoneers or sabred by the Guard which then rides Wrede's center under. Drouot then shifts his guns to support the Frnech left flank, which still is under attack. There there two battalions of Guard grenadiers, literally shaking with impatience, finally hear the order:

'Grenadiers, forward!'

'An officer who had fought for hours on the extreme left of the French line, sees them come: '…their line swept down the slope in perfect order, but headlong and terrible for these men were furious. I see them yet…grinding their teeth, hissing like serpents, shaking their…terrible bayonets. In an instant everything before them was knocked over, run through, swept into the Kinzig [River], where seven to eight hundred bodies piled up.-a frightful spectacle for a human being, a superb one for a soldier.''

'Wrede's little army tumbles back in rout; the road to France stretches free.'

'Behind this battle, Provost General Radet has circled the army's trains, which include more than 200 spare cannon. For escort, he has two battalions of Guard infantry and its gendarmerie d'elite. Thinking him an easy target, a horde of Cossacks pours out of the woods-into a thunderstorm of artillery fire that literally blows them away. Radet has put every cannon into his perimeter defense. Gendarmerie d'elite ride out in pursuit, picking up prisoners and putting crippled horses out of their agony…"

From the Introduction to the 1997 edition of The Anatomy of Glory by Henry Lachouque, translated by Anne Brown, x. The Introuction was written by John Elting for the new edition. The quotation regarding the attack by the Old Guard grenadiers a pied is from Lefebvre de Behaine, Napoleon et Les Allies sur le Rhin, Paris 1913, 384.

Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2016 11:19 a.m. PST

No, you are wrong and I am right, (obviously)

There is a famous children's book in English where a girl says "I shall Scream and I shall Scream until I am sick".

Shall we do a Brechtel and Gazzola just for fun?

Oh go on……….. let's.

You are an ignorant fellow. You know nothing. You have ignored everything I have said. You have done no research beyond reading that awful Anat of Gl. That is not a good primary source.

The Gardes d'Honneur excelled at Hanau. It was their finest hour. (almost their only one).

Let us now see if this can get over 400 postings.

How long did it take to train a Garde d'Honneur kettledrummer? Elting says two weeks……

(With apologies to Gazzola and Brechtel. I actually find you both very authoritative and fascinating, but could not resist this. Poor Tango knows nothing though. Foolish fellow) (grin)

Tango0117 Aug 2016 10:45 p.m. PST

Ha!Ha!Ha!…

You made me laught my friend!

I have not "spirit" for that kind of fight here…

I prefer those that I can see the eyes of my contender… (smile)

By the way… the Gardes D'Honneur were cowards!… (big smile).

Amicalement
Armand

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