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Tango0113 Aug 2016 3:18 p.m. PST

"As monuments go, the one depicting Colonial heroine Hannah Dustin looks like any other, with one crucial exception: In her left hand she holds a fistful of human scalps.

The inscription underneath tells of her 1697 capture in an Indian raid, and how she slew her captors as they slept – 10 women and children. Later she returned for their scalps, having remembered they could fetch a bounty.

The idea of a settler scalping Indians might seem like a historical quirk. Most Americans assume that if there was any scalping going on in Colonial times, the Indians were doing it, not the English…"
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attilathepun4713 Aug 2016 4:24 p.m. PST

It is my impression that scalping was pretty general as a practice among the real frontiersmen, whether English or French-Canadian, and for long after the colonial period when scalps fetched a bounty. It may seem disgusting to modern sensibilities, but it becomes fairly understandable when you contemplate that these same people would have seen a good many of their friends and kin scalped--not always after death either.

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP13 Aug 2016 9:29 p.m. PST

A disgusting custom no matter who practiced it. Shame on the natives for "starting" it. Shame on the settlers for copying it.

bandit86 Supporting Member of TMP13 Aug 2016 9:58 p.m. PST

Terrible custom for sure but, I do not fault her for what she did.

Mako1113 Aug 2016 10:38 p.m. PST

I always had the impression the natives started it, and then the other side decided to play by their rules as well, and copied the practice.

Didn't read the article, so don't know if that's accurate or not.

vtsaogames14 Aug 2016 6:49 a.m. PST

Let's not bicker about who scalped who.

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2016 8:12 p.m. PST

ha! Agreed!

Major Bloodnok15 Aug 2016 1:40 p.m. PST

Taking body parts to prove the body count is as old as the hills, and happened all over the world. The Egyptians collected hands from Nubians, penises (pe-ni?), from the Libyians. There is some thought that the Native Americans adopted it from the Colonials.

42flanker16 Aug 2016 7:19 a.m. PST

There is extensive evidence of trophy taking in 'Pre contact' American cultures.

I suspect that attribution of the origin of scalp taking to European settlers on the eastern seaboard is a piece of C20th self-flagellation, probably based on a mis-interprtation of the offering of bounties for scalps.

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