".45 1911 ACP Myths & Legends" Topic
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Tango01 | 10 Aug 2016 12:30 p.m. PST |
"On the morning of 8 October 1918, elements of the 328th Infantry, 82nd Division, United States Army, were pinned down by German machine-gun fire. Seventeen men, under the command of Sgt. Bernard Early, were ordered to out-flank the machine guns. Shortly after they left their own lines, they came across a German officer and several soldiers having breakfast. Believing that they were surrounded, the Germans surrendered. However, before Early could detach a man to take the prisoners back through the lines, intensive machine gun fire swept the patrol. Eight American soldiers survived. Sgt. Early was killed. As the remaining non-com, Cpl. Alvin York took command of the patrol. While the remaining Americans covered their prisoners, trying at the same time to avoid enemy fire, York spotted the location of the German guns, about 30 yards away. In addition to his Enfield M1917 rifle, he also carried a Colt .45 automatic pistol. The German gunners peeked over the tops of their Maxim guns to avoid hitting their own men. With the appearance of each face, framed in its "coal-scuttle" helmet, York's Enfield spoke. One shot equaled one dead gunner. York was from the Tennessee mountains where firearms were used to put food on the table. Mountain folk were frugal, making each shot count…" More here sightm1911.com/1911-Myth.htm Amicalement Armand |
ScottWashburn | 10 Aug 2016 5:11 p.m. PST |
In the movie Cooper uses a captured German Luger. |
donlowry | 10 Aug 2016 6:13 p.m. PST |
I've read that Cooper used a Luger in the movie because a Luger will self-load using blanks, while a 1911 won't. Don't know if that's true. And wouldn't his shoulder weapon have been a Springfield? |
stecal | 10 Aug 2016 7:16 p.m. PST |
Nope, the majority of the AEF was equipped with the m1917 enfield due to production issues. link |
donlowry | 11 Aug 2016 8:34 a.m. PST |
Learn something new every day. |
Jo Jo the Idiot Circus Boy | 11 Aug 2016 10:23 a.m. PST |
I've read that Cooper used a Luger in the movie because a Luger will self-load using blanks, while a 1911 won't. Don't know if that's true. 100% true. Po8 Lugers operate fairly well with blanks, but M1911s are notoriously hard to blank adapt. You can do it, but it takes a lot of work. It involves a permanent alteration to the workings of the gun including grinding down some of the locking lugs. Back when Sgt York was shot Hollywood armorers tended to use pistols that could stand in for the 1911 when seen from a distance or just substituted a pistol they could make function with blanks such as the Luger featured in the York movie. I know a couple of reenactors that have blank adapted M1911s over the years, but these days most of those who want a reenactment usable M1911 just buy a non-gun blank firer or just use the pistol without a Blank Firing Device. |
Jo Jo the Idiot Circus Boy | 11 Aug 2016 10:27 a.m. PST |
Speaking of York, have you all seen this? sgtyorkdiscovery.com Apparently a couple of years back they did an archeological survey of the site of York's action. They dug up some interesting stuff, including what they think are spent rifle and pistol rounds fired by York as well as a bunch of live Mauser rounds still in stripper clips that might have been dropped by York's prisoners. Interesting stuff. |
Tango01 | 11 Aug 2016 10:40 a.m. PST |
Interesting indeed!… thanks for share!. Amicalement Armand |
Hussar123 | 12 Aug 2016 4:23 a.m. PST |
The heavy slide and strong springs in the 1911 makes blanks useless unless mods are made. |
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